Boxer Vs. Briefs Mafia

[higgs2]

yep.

[oblivion]

ok. so did mine, but I wasn't sure how much of it was due to the player I replaced being new to mafia.

[oblivion]

Feck had a bit of a shit fit when denny suggested a role pm quiz.

[higgs2]

I know, that's partly why I want to hear about this.

Is maneke a noob? Mine did not have a link to the game thread.

[higgs2]

Oh, I see that yes he's a noob.

[higgs2]

Seriously, the pm's must be different, or anyone who is vanilla scum would immediately recognize that I am too.

[oblivion]

ok. went back and looked at the role pm. I'm thinking I'll hold off on saying any more about it until we hear from feck and totals.

[oblivion]

Seriously, the pm's must be different, or anyone who is vanilla scum would immediately recognize that I am too.

zigmen mentioned after the boy band game that he doesn't send out a template role pm. he personalizes them. but there have to be some commonalities - some things that every pm will mention.

and it's quite possible that he gave the scum team the essential bits of a vanilla town pm.

[higgs2]

I guess we'll see.

[DennyB]

Seriously, the pm's must be different, or anyone who is vanilla scum would immediately recognize that I am too.

zigmen mentioned after the boy band game that he doesn't send out a template role pm. he personalizes them. but there have to be some commonalities - some things that every pm will mention.

and it's quite possible that he gave the scum team the essential bits of a vanilla town pm.

I agree,

[oblivion]

I'll just say that as a GM I try to ensure that the role PM doesn't trap players or break my games. I imagine zigmen has the same concerns when he designs his games.

[DennyB]

Just for haha's, whats the odds of 4 scum w/ no don?

[oblivion]

it would be a badly balanced game. 36% scum. about the highest I'd design is 28%

[DennyB]

even with no special scum?

[oblivion]

3 scum would be 27%

In the balance algorithim I often use:

don = -6
vanilla scum = -4.5
seer = 3
doc = 3
full vig = 3

so with 1 don, 2 scum, 1 doc, 1 seer, 1 vig, 5 vanila town the balance is -1 which is almost perfect. a 12 player game with one more vanilla town would make it 0.

with 4 vanilla scum, 1 doc, 1 seer, 1 vig, 4 vanilla town the balance is -5 - way bad for town.