Boxer Vs. Briefs Mafia

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Re: Boxer Vs. Briefs Mafia Day 3

Post by higgs2 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:55 am

yep.
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Re: Boxer Vs. Briefs Mafia Day 3

Post by oblivion » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:57 am

ok. so did mine, but I wasn't sure how much of it was due to the player I replaced being new to mafia.

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Re: Boxer Vs. Briefs Mafia Day 3

Post by oblivion » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:58 am

Feck had a bit of a shit fit when denny suggested a role pm quiz.

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Post by higgs2 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:00 am

I know, that's partly why I want to hear about this.

Is maneke a noob? Mine did not have a link to the game thread.
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Post by higgs2 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:01 am

Oh, I see that yes he's a noob.
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Post by higgs2 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:05 am

Seriously, the pm's must be different, or anyone who is vanilla scum would immediately recognize that I am too.
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Post by oblivion » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:07 am

ok. went back and looked at the role pm. I'm thinking I'll hold off on saying any more about it until we hear from feck and totals.

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Re: Boxer Vs. Briefs Mafia Day 3

Post by oblivion » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:09 am

higgs2 wrote:Seriously, the pm's must be different, or anyone who is vanilla scum would immediately recognize that I am too.
zigmen mentioned after the boy band game that he doesn't send out a template role pm. he personalizes them. but there have to be some commonalities - some things that every pm will mention.

and it's quite possible that he gave the scum team the essential bits of a vanilla town pm.

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Post by higgs2 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:10 am

I guess we'll see.
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Re: Boxer Vs. Briefs Mafia Day 3

Post by DennyB » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:11 am

oblivion wrote:
higgs2 wrote:Seriously, the pm's must be different, or anyone who is vanilla scum would immediately recognize that I am too.
zigmen mentioned after the boy band game that he doesn't send out a template role pm. he personalizes them. but there have to be some commonalities - some things that every pm will mention.

and it's quite possible that he gave the scum team the essential bits of a vanilla town pm.
I agree, :flog:
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Re: Boxer Vs. Briefs Mafia Day 3

Post by oblivion » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:13 am

I'll just say that as a GM I try to ensure that the role PM doesn't trap players or break my games. I imagine zigmen has the same concerns when he designs his games.

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Re: Boxer Vs. Briefs Mafia Day 3

Post by DennyB » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:15 am

Just for haha's, whats the odds of 4 scum w/ no don?
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Re: Boxer Vs. Briefs Mafia Day 3

Post by oblivion » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:17 am

it would be a badly balanced game. 36% scum. about the highest I'd design is 28%

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Re: Boxer Vs. Briefs Mafia Day 3

Post by DennyB » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:18 am

even with no special scum?
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Re: Boxer Vs. Briefs Mafia Day 3

Post by oblivion » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:27 am

3 scum would be 27%

In the balance algorithim I often use:

don = -6
vanilla scum = -4.5
seer = 3
doc = 3
full vig = 3

so with 1 don, 2 scum, 1 doc, 1 seer, 1 vig, 5 vanila town the balance is -1 which is almost perfect. a 12 player game with one more vanilla town would make it 0.

with 4 vanilla scum, 1 doc, 1 seer, 1 vig, 4 vanilla town the balance is -5 - way bad for town.

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