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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by charlou » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:01 am

amok wrote:
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higgs2 wrote:Why do we not think diva and r.c. are scum?
The clock is running down here, but I think Diva led the suspicion on Gonzo (Scum), when it wasn't necessary by any means.

RC? Not sure. For me, personally, it might be that "meta" thing that I poo-poo'd earlier (sorry, Bilirubin). I think of RC as Town, because he's always been Town. And smart. Oh, oh.

Be back soon. Going to look as quickly as I can at previous day threads.
Nah, if RC's not Town, I'll eat my keyboard. He hasn't posted much (but didn't make any weird excuses), but on Day 2 said he wasn't sure about his suspicions (which included me and Bilirubin), but had Irre, Mantis and Diva on his Town list. That's pretty good, for Day 2. Classic RC.

Day 4 he repeated a comment from Day 3, that he believed one of the Gonzo BW was Scum, saying look at Athene, Zigmen, KSen and Higgs.

Voted Zig for a lynch and Diva for Mayor. Finally voted Fuzzy for a lynch, but only to save me (on the grounds of extra kills, and being able to kill me later).

I don't see Scum. I see Town.
I'm reading r.c as town too ... but your rationale for doing so are also classic scum tricks.
For example, your first paragraph ...

Nothing unusual about a scum player who doesn't post much, particularly if already established as a minimalist player. Nothing unusual about scum hedging by stating uncertaingy about suspicions. Nothing unusual about scum knowing who town are.

Do you see what I mean?
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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by higgs2 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:02 am

oblivion do you ever give vote counts? I think I have seen you do this. Would you pretty please? I have to go to bed.
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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by Zigmen » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:02 am

higgs2 wrote:
Zigmen wrote:
higgs2 wrote:vote charlou
Why Charlou?

I have my reasons as well, but I'm curious what your reasons are.
she's smart enough to know not to push those kinds of questions. also, thought she tried to get a bw going on an outed special although i would have though she was too smart to do that too. convenient way to get the bw off athene?

what are your reasons
Well, suggesting we lynch Ksen and NK me pinged a bit. Fighting the alliance with Amok, yesterday. Asking the Doc to say who they blocked last was a bit much.

The bodyguard wiki was pretty smooth, too. Until I researched it.

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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by amok » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:03 am

charlou wrote:
higgs2 wrote:
Zigmen wrote:
higgs2 wrote:vote charlou
Why Charlou?

I have my reasons as well, but I'm curious what your reasons are.
she's smart enough to know not to push those kinds of questions. also, thought she tried to get a bw going on an outed special although i would have though she was too smart to do that too. convenient way to get the bw off athene?

what are your reasons
I asked that question while still skeptical about your 'bodyguard' claim.

During that time I got on, got off and have gone back to the Athene wagon.

ksen, r.c and I are on it.
Charlou, Ksen, RC - if Athene is lynched and flips Scum, who should I kill? If she flips Town, who should I kill?

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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by higgs2 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:06 am

Zigmen wrote:
higgs2 wrote:
Zigmen wrote:
higgs2 wrote:vote charlou
Why Charlou?

I have my reasons as well, but I'm curious what your reasons are.
she's smart enough to know not to push those kinds of questions. also, thought she tried to get a bw going on an outed special although i would have though she was too smart to do that too. convenient way to get the bw off athene?

what are your reasons
Well, suggesting we lynch Ksen and NK me pinged a bit. Fighting the alliance with Amok, yesterday. Asking the Doc to say who they blocked last was a bit much.

The bodyguard wiki was pretty smooth, too. Until I researched it.

##Unvote##

##Vote Charlou##
So is it true that diva is the mayor? And is she still on me?

You'll need to get someone to switch over, maybe two. i have to go to bed.
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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by Zigmen » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:06 am

charlou wrote:. but your rationale for doing so are also classic scum tricks.
Are you saying Amok has Scum Tricks?

Like getting 2 kills a night? That's a really neat Scum Trick . . .
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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by charlou » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:07 am

r.c wrote:
amok wrote:
r.c wrote:I'm inclined to believe zigmen's claim. There is nothing in the wiki mafia that says that masons have to be lovers. If they are infact mason lovers, it would have been a pretty dumb move to out, effectively giving two kills to scum with one shot.

If ksen and zigmen are indeed scum, we can lynch one of them tomorrow and still win. I would suggest that we go after someone else today.
To me it is between athene and higgs.
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If this vote goes through, and athene flips Scum, who do you think I should kill? If she flips Town, who do you think I should kill? Thanks. This isn't in stone, but I can make my own tally, and update it as we go along if people change their minds.
Amok, I trust your claim that you are town aligned sk. But, I feel pre deciding NK would be a vital piece of information for scum, which might allow them to plan their NK accordingly. I'm not sure whether it would be a good idea to tell you who to kill.
This from r.c could be clever scum too, but looks town to me, as did his replies to my questions about lynching amok yesterday.
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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by Zigmen » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:08 am

I think we need to vote Charlou and NK Athene, Amok. In that order.

Ksen, we need ya on board.

I hope Diva can pop back in, too. Can't leave a mayor vote on the doc . . .
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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by charlou » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:08 am

Zigmen wrote:
charlou wrote:. but your rationale for doing so are also classic scum tricks.
Are you saying Amok has Scum Tricks?

Like getting 2 kills a night? That's a really neat Scum Trick . . .
No, but I can see I didn't make that very clear ... I meant the same things she's picked as townish of r.c, are also classic scum tricks.
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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by charlou » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:09 am

charlou wrote:
Zigmen wrote:
charlou wrote:. but your rationale for doing so are also classic scum tricks.
Are you saying Amok has Scum Tricks?

Like getting 2 kills a night? That's a really neat Scum Trick . . .
No, but I can see I didn't make that very clear ... I meant the same things she's picked as townish of r.c, are also classic scum tricks.
I went on to give examples.
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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by charlou » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:13 am

higgs2 wrote:
Zigmen wrote:
higgs2 wrote:
Zigmen wrote:
higgs2 wrote:vote charlou
Why Charlou?

I have my reasons as well, but I'm curious what your reasons are.
she's smart enough to know not to push those kinds of questions. also, thought she tried to get a bw going on an outed special although i would have though she was too smart to do that too. convenient way to get the bw off athene?

what are your reasons
Well, suggesting we lynch Ksen and NK me pinged a bit. Fighting the alliance with Amok, yesterday. Asking the Doc to say who they blocked last was a bit much.

The bodyguard wiki was pretty smooth, too. Until I researched it.

##Unvote##

##Vote Charlou##
So is it true that diva is the mayor? And is she still on me?

You'll need to get someone to switch over, maybe two. i have to go to bed.
I have diva as the only person voting for you.

In fact, why would that be ...

Is diva still online?

Why's your vote still on higgs?
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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by amok » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:14 am

charlou wrote:
amok wrote:
amok wrote:
higgs2 wrote:Why do we not think diva and r.c. are scum?
The clock is running down here, but I think Diva led the suspicion on Gonzo (Scum), when it wasn't necessary by any means.

RC? Not sure. For me, personally, it might be that "meta" thing that I poo-poo'd earlier (sorry, Bilirubin). I think of RC as Town, because he's always been Town. And smart. Oh, oh.

Be back soon. Going to look as quickly as I can at previous day threads.
Nah, if RC's not Town, I'll eat my keyboard. He hasn't posted much (but didn't make any weird excuses), but on Day 2 said he wasn't sure about his suspicions (which included me and Bilirubin), but had Irre, Mantis and Diva on his Town list. That's pretty good, for Day 2. Classic RC.

Day 4 he repeated a comment from Day 3, that he believed one of the Gonzo BW was Scum, saying look at Athene, Zigmen, KSen and Higgs.

Voted Zig for a lynch and Diva for Mayor. Finally voted Fuzzy for a lynch, but only to save me (on the grounds of extra kills, and being able to kill me later).

I don't see Scum. I see Town.
I'm reading r.c as town too ... but your rationale for doing so are also classic scum tricks.
For example, your first paragraph ...

Nothing unusual about a scum player who doesn't post much, particularly if already established as a minimalist player. Nothing unusual about scum hedging by stating uncertaingy about suspicions. Nothing unusual about scum knowing who town are.

Do you see what I mean?
I guess. I'll think about that later, of course, after all the truth outs.

But right now, does anyone know the lynch vote and night kill vote? I've just wasted a bunch of time, apparently, reading previous day threads.
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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by oblivion » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:15 am

this is my current vote count.

athene - 3
chaza - 2
higgs - 1
Amok - 1

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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by charlou » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:18 am

amok wrote:
charlou wrote:
higgs2 wrote:
Zigmen wrote:
higgs2 wrote:vote charlou
Why Charlou?

I have my reasons as well, but I'm curious what your reasons are.
she's smart enough to know not to push those kinds of questions. also, thought she tried to get a bw going on an outed special although i would have though she was too smart to do that too. convenient way to get the bw off athene?

what are your reasons
I asked that question while still skeptical about your 'bodyguard' claim.

During that time I got on, got off and have gone back to the Athene wagon.

ksen, r.c and I are on it.
Charlou, Ksen, RC - if Athene is lynched and flips Scum, who should I kill? If she flips Town, who should I kill?

Come on, please. Give me a break here. Ha!
If she flips scum, I'd say your answer is obvious ... if she flips town take your pick. I'm town, so losing me means town will be down at least two players after today/tonight ... in addition to the scum hit - unless higgs protects herself ... I'm not sure which of ksen or r.c would be the best pick for your NK if she flips town. If you're interested in gut feelings, I'd go with ksen.


crosspost oblivion ... That's the tally I have.
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Re: Stargate SG1 - Day 5

Post by Zigmen » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:21 am

If we lynch either Athene or Charlou, NK the other one.

I'm pretty sure I can proxy Ksen's sentiment on that vote as well, as those two are the only ones we've been suspicious of on our Writeboard.

If it gets close to nightfall, and the votes stay the same, I may switch to Athene just to prevent Scum from swooping in and mucking this up.
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