Stargate SG1 - game thread

[charlou]

charlou why do you say the other thread would be among the masons?

higgs, what is your win condition?

it says i win when all threats to town are eliminated.

What do you make of the phrasing of that and how it applies to what's going on in the game?

[amok]

Does anyone know on which part of the globe KSen lives? He hasn't answered questions, but it might be because of where he lives.

Zigmen, I'm going to ask two questions:

1) Why did you not think it might be good to shoot out even one hint about blue or oval or stone, if not right away, but toward the latter part of the game? Or did you?

2) Is my scenario about lynching you or KSen (no matter how you flip), at least reasonable for a Town win?

[Zigmen]

Right, so zig was given 2 blue stones and not told anything about them. And ksen was to randomly search players in the hopes that he found the person with the stones and could be mason buddies with them. Is that about right?

Who were the other people he searched btw.

I can only answer from my perspective. Yes. I was given 2 blue oval stones without explanation.

[charlou]

Amok, if we pop any Scum today, would you then think it safe to assume that neither Ksen nor I could be Scum?

That would mean there are currently 3 living Scum. That's impossible by any stretch of game balance.

Jesus Xpost city

Why did you leave open the possibility that you're not both town aligned in your first post in this thread?

Have you read the mafiascum wiki on masons that I linked to earlier?

[higgs2]

charlou why do you say the other thread would be among the masons?

higgs, what is your win condition?

it says i win when all threats to town are eliminated.

What do you make of the phrasing of that and how it applies to what's going on in the game?

I am not sure how it applies to amok. If amok has a tradition sk wc then definitely she is a threat to town. If her win condition is what she says, then I'm not sure. But she surely can be a threat to town as she can nk town. Certainly scum is a threat to town. Town masons would not be a threat if that is indeed what we have. What do you think?

[charlou]

Athene's lack of input when questioned about higgs bothers me as I'd considered her gameplay to be more astute than that.

Did anyone else find that strange?

[higgs2]

Athene's lack of input when questioned about higgs bothers me as I'd considered her gameplay to be more astute than that.

Did anyone else find that strange?

I did. I thought it sounded like a half assed white knight from a scum buddy. But I'm not scum.

[r.c]

Ksen and I were both online, so we spoke a bit, and decided to out our new positions. We also decided to lead with votes on athene to inspire her to post, but that we leaned toward Charlou being Scum as well.

I would be interested to know, what exactly prompted you'll to out your roles at the start of the day. Right now it is creating more of a wifom and distraction to town.

[amok]

I'm inclined to believe zigmen's claim. There is nothing in the wiki mafia that says that masons have to be lovers. If they are infact mason lovers, it would have been a pretty dumb move to out, effectively giving two kills to scum with one shot.

If ksen and zigmen are indeed scum, we can lynch one of them tomorrow and still win. I would suggest that we go after someone else today.
To me it is between athene and higgs.
##vote athene##

If this vote goes through, and athene flips Scum, who do you think I should kill? If she flips Town, who do you think I should kill? Thanks. This isn't in stone, but I can make my own tally, and update it as we go along if people change their minds.

Amok, I trust your claim that you are town aligned sk. But, I feel pre deciding NK would be a vital piece of information for scum, which might allow them to plan their NK accordingly. I'm not sure whether it would be a good idea to tell you who to kill.

Which means we are trusting in the judgement of a serial killer to help town win.

A serial killer who didn't kill on Night 1 (because I didn't want to kill Town). Tried to kill Biliruben on Night 2 (because I thought he was Scum). Didn't kill on Night 3 (because I told Town I wouldn't kil)l. Killed Biliruben on Night 4, because that was the request of Town.

I don't know. One the one hand I can't see how these would be the actions of a Serial Killer who didn't have the win condition of survive-with rather than sole survivor, and also hadn't made a choice to align with Town. But on the other hand it may just seem obvious to me, because I know what's been in my head.

[divagreen]

List of players:

3. Aza/Charlou - looked scummy as Aza, looks pristine as Charlou. unsure
4. ksen - has made a few mistakes and dropping classic Ksen scumtells. unsure/scummy
7. Zigmen - steering, pissing on the same bush as Bili, etc. - unsure/almost leaning town at this point
9. higgs2 - she is going with whatever the popular wave is after reconsidering on her whole thing of trying to get me lynched. Uber scummy.
11. r.c - town. If he isn't scum then he has, with few posts worked it like a motherfucker.
15. Athene - engages on d3...really? Unsure/leaning scum/possibly town/unsure/probably town.
16. Amok - indie...and is trying to help town. Will get massive accolades if she is a sole survivor for being town aligned.
18. diva - town!!!!! And sucks at endgame!!!!!!!!

Amok, I think the Zigboys do need a bit of breaking up, HTH. So we will see how this day plays out and I trust your judgment.

eta: a bunch of fucking posts in between I am hitting submit anyway.

[charlou]

hmmm ... higgs and Athene .... ?

That would mean I'm probably off with the mason concern.

If it's just one of higgs or Athene ... or neither - r.c and diva are not cleared ... the mason concern is still there.

There's only one person I'm less uncertain may be one of the threats to town that must be eliminated, and that's amok.

[higgs2]

Ksen and I were both online, so we spoke a bit, and decided to out our new positions. We also decided to lead with votes on athene to inspire her to post, but that we leaned toward Charlou being Scum as well.

I would be interested to know, what exactly prompted you'll to out your roles at the start of the day. Right now it is creating more of a wifom and distraction to town.

This is a good question, I would like to know also.

[divagreen]

Edit:

*11. r.c - town. If he is scum then he has, with few posts worked it like a motherfucker.

[charlou]

I would like an answer to this:

Amok, if we pop any Scum today, would you then think it safe to assume that neither Ksen nor I could be Scum?

That would mean there are currently 3 living Scum. That's impossible by any stretch of game balance.

Jesus Xpost city

Why did you leave open the possibility that you're not both town aligned in your first post in this thread?

Have you read the mafiascum wiki on masons that I linked to earlier?

[charlou]

List of players:

3. Aza/Charlou - looked scummy as Aza, looks pristine as Charlou. unsure
4. ksen - has made a few mistakes and dropping classic Ksen scumtells. unsure/scummy
7. Zigmen - steering, pissing on the same bush as Bili, etc. - unsure/almost leaning town at this point
9. higgs2 - she is going with whatever the popular wave is after reconsidering on her whole thing of trying to get me lynched. Uber scummy.
11. r.c - town. If he isn't scum then he has, with few posts worked it like a motherfucker.
15. Athene - engages on d3...really? Unsure/leaning scum/possibly town/unsure/probably town.
16. Amok - indie...and is trying to help town. Will get massive accolades if she is a sole survivor for being town aligned.
18. diva - town!!!!! And sucks at endgame!!!!!!!!

Amok, I think the Zigboys do need a bit of breaking up, HTH. So we will see how this day plays out and I trust your judgment.

eta: a bunch of fucking posts in between I am hitting submit anyway.

Given the bits I've bolded ... would you consider switching back to ksen?