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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by amok » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:19 pm

Just saw Charlou's list. Thanks. I obviously think Bilirubin is Scum. I'm leaning that way about Aza/Charlou, mostly because Irre asked me if I'd consider killing him/her last night, and she was dead right about btern. Also Charlou said my posts have misrepresentations in them, which doesn't make sense to me at all. I may be wrong, but I'm not misrepresenting anything. RC's point about Fuzzy also makes sense to me. Athene, only because she seems to be working with Bilirubin. That could just be being wrong, though.

My Scum list is Bilirubin, Aza/Charlou, Fuzzy, Athene.
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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by Bilirubin » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:21 pm

Ah, was in that huge WoT. Didn't read it because I generally find his reasoning painful, since he argues from analogy so often. But that looks like town Zigman at least.

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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by Zigmen » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:22 pm

Bilirubin wrote:I note Zigman has not answered Athene's question about his win condition. He just doesn't care about the outcome it seems.

And obviously I'm now a huge distraction for town. If there is a vig that has withheld their actions to now, please kill me tonight. Or Amok.
Athene wrote:Zigmen, what is your win condition?

Zigmen wrote:Good question; when all threats to Town are eliminated.

But thanks again, Captain Wifom. You can't understand why you look so Scummy when you screw up every last fact?
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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by Zigmen » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:24 pm

Bilirubin wrote:Ah, was in that huge WoT. Didn't read it because I generally find his reasoning painful, since he argues from analogy so often. But that looks like town Zigman at least.
And for god's sake spell my name correctly.
ZIGMEN

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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by Feck » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:26 pm

charlou wrote:
Zigmen wrote:
Feck wrote:
Zigmen wrote:Same question to this crowd:

amok 5 (athene, bili, fuzzy, diva, praying)

Bili, you're excused from answering because you wouldn't know pro-town if it bit you on the ass.
Strangely that looks a lot like my scum list .
Bump.

If Town loses, and you were Town and your name was on this list, we need to have a long discussion in the post-game.
Why, because we were all on Feck's scum list?


Feck, do you think the five people quoted in the list above are scum?
well not all of them obviously .
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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by charlou » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:28 pm

amok wrote:Just saw Charlou's list. Thanks. I obviously think Bilirubin is Scum. I'm leaning that way about Aza/Charlou, mostly because Irre asked me if I'd consider killing him/her last night, and she was dead right about btern. Also Charlou said my posts have misrepresentations in them, which doesn't make sense to me at all. I may be wrong, but I'm not misrepresenting anything. RC's point about Fuzzy also makes sense to me. Athene, only because she seems to be working with Bilirubin. That could just be being wrong, though.

My Scum list is Bilirubin, Aza/Charlou, Fuzzy, Athene.
irre asked you when Az had been playing and before I stepped in.

The misrepresentation I'm talking about is where you've made comments along the lines that bili's not been scum hunting or contributing anything protown. If that's what you believe, I think you're wrong about it.
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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by Zigmen » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:29 pm

Just got lynched at TR, so now I can fully devote my team here.

The players voting for Amok need to explain why they won't wait one day to see if we can use Amok to our advantage.

Can't we kill her tomorrow if it doesn't pan out?

1.5 hours to go, and Town has no business winning this fucking game with this bullshit mass delusion.
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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by charlou » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:31 pm

Zigmen wrote:
Bilirubin wrote:I note Zigman has not answered Athene's question about his win condition. He just doesn't care about the outcome it seems.

And obviously I'm now a huge distraction for town. If there is a vig that has withheld their actions to now, please kill me tonight. Or Amok.
Athene wrote:Zigmen, what is your win condition?

Zigmen wrote:Good question; when all threats to Town are eliminated.

But thanks again, Captain Wifom. You can't understand why you look so Scummy when you screw up every last fact?
charlou wrote:
Bilirubin wrote:I note Zigman has not answered Athene's question about his win condition. He just doesn't care about the outcome it seems.

And obviously I'm now a huge distraction for town. If there is a vig that has withheld their actions to now, please kill me tonight. Or Amok.
Why ask a vig kill on amok when she's currently most likely to be lynched?

Zigmen answered Athene's question ... but the answer was posted by oblivion in the game OP.
Bilirubin wrote:Ah, was in that huge WoT. Didn't read it because I generally find his reasoning painful, since he argues from analogy so often. But that looks like town Zigman at least.
Do keep up, Zigmen.

This dramatic demeanor is so unbecoming.
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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by Zigmen » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:32 pm

IMHO, Bili and Charlou at least have self-preservation issues. If Amok lives, chances are good that they both die.

The rest either want Scum to gain an advantage or are too blind to what's going on.

This is frustrating to watch Town get hamstrung like this.
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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by Zigmen » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:33 pm

charlou wrote: Do keep up, Zigmen.

This dramatic demeanor is so unbecoming.
It takes time to put together multi-quote posts. Get off my back.
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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by charlou » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:34 pm

Intriguing that Zigmen quoted bili's post and notes the misspelling of his name, but not that bili had already acknowledged his omission regarding Zigmen's reply to Athene's question.
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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by Zigmen » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:36 pm

charlou wrote:Intriguing that Zigmen quoted bili's post and notes the misspelling of his name, but not that bili had already acknowledged his omission regarding Zigmen's reply to Athene's question.
What's your point? That I don't read the xposts?
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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by Bilirubin » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:37 pm

Zigmen wrote:
Bilirubin wrote:Ah, was in that huge WoT. Didn't read it because I generally find his reasoning painful, since he argues from analogy so often. But that looks like town Zigman at least.
And for god's sake spell my name correctly.
ZIGMEN

Thanks.
Does this annoy you Zigman?

Look, step back a second and think--or try to--about this objectively. You announced how you were going to be working with other townies more closely. So what would you expect scum to do? Cower in the corner because DeanM will be "triangulating"? No, they are going to try to latch onto you and become your closest confident, depending on how the winds are blowing. I did this very thing to ksen in the Star Wars game, and wound up winning it for scum as the last man standing in fact because he trusted me to the point where killing me (he was vig) wasn't an option.

Now look at ksen's play just TODAY. He was on me with you, then you went away and he offered to lynch you with me. When I didn't bite, he went back onto me, esp now that you are back and just as deeply trolly tracked as before. I think his play 1) clears you somewhat, and 2) is classic scummy play that you simply can't see with your blinders on.

You suggested I don't know what town play is. All I've done this game to draw your initial suspicion is not participate as usual on the first day and a bit. Sorry, friends showed up unannounced and stayed for 3 days. But since then I have scum hunted, pushed some FoSes, backed off others, put my thinking out for town, found people that I trust and have worked with them--all ignored by you because in your world "town play" = what YOU are thinking.

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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by Zigmen » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:39 pm

Diva. Why can't Amok be killed tomorrow if she fails to kill as we instruct her to tonight?

What's the rush?

Given the names on Amok's BW, I can understand Bili and Charlou not wanting to die, though it's bad Town play at best.

Athene is stubborn and is avoiding questions.

You might be the one player on that BW who can reason through this and switch to Bili.
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Re: Stargate SG1 Mafia - Day 4

Post by ksen » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:41 pm

charlou wrote:Sorry r.c ... I'm up with your thinking, but under the circumstances I'm going with

vote amok
What circumstances are those?

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