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Mantisdreamz
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by Mantisdreamz » Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:17 pm
divagreen wrote:
Sorry, Bili, I have zero idea what to do when someone lies about what I have posted and when someone else who should really know better, buys it.
I wouldn't say buying it. if you were scum, the various things could have been an option though.. there's no way to
really tell
on that note,
##unvote diva##
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by r.c » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:03 pm
Zigmen wrote:r.c wrote:irretating wrote:r.c wrote:The votes on b.tern happened during the end of the day. I guess, this comes up in every game I play that scum wouldn't lynch one of their own on the first day. Mantis and irre lean townish to me.
Well, yes, but apart from that what do you think? Any suspects?
Reading up on day 1 these are the players I have an FOS on
zigmen, gonzo, DP and mattshizzle.
zigmen's interaction with bilrubin, DP voting for feck after saying self voting for mayor may be a bit scummy, diva pointing out that gonzo self voted mayor in another game but put his vote on diva. They did provide an explanation but it still pings me a little.
Mantis was a key vote that nailed a Scum.
Gonzo does look iffy after the interaction with Diva.
DP, you could be right. Amok sees something there as well.
And me? Aside from a few players not liking my votes, which I've explained, I don't see what you're seeing.
Xpost higgs
I do not have a strong Fos on any of the players that I have listed. Right now its just an instinct.
Although I do have a better feel of the players who I think are town
irre, mantis, diva
diva's analysis looks good and townish to me. Also I'm leaning town towards Az as diva pointed out
divagreen wrote:irretating wrote:
I thought b. ternius looked followy of Aza.
First with this post:
http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 70#p944070
Then she followed his vote.
I am feeling better about Aza because I do not think that b.ternarius would openly follow a scummate like that.
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by Zigmen » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:05 pm
I have company coming over soonish.
Anyone have a vote count?
And, let me say up front, if the Bili BW doesn't pick up steam quickly, I will vote along with Irre, Mantis, and/or Amok.
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by divagreen » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:08 pm
I shouldn't have to throw a temper tantrum in order to convince people that I am town. I don't mind getting lynched when I am scum. Ffs, I have even helped you guys by self-voting or giving myself away. I don't mind getting lynched for when I have shitty play like in the last game. I was upset over that game because of my behaviour and how ruthlessly I taunted Oblivion. I am even learning to get over being lynched by scum, although it still gives me a butthurt that they can do it so easily.
What I DO mind is someone who claims to be able to read me early in a game (which is a lie), takes what I say and acts like it is her own idea, misrepresents what I say and fucking creates drama by taking things to a personal level while trying to maintain that I am the only one doing it. I think Irre is town because she is not one to do the slimy scum. She is simply delusional. I am ignoring her from here on out.
I am trying to be calmer in my play and that is what is reflected at TR. I am trying to bring that sense of calm here because I am tired of this crap. I want my games to be cleaner for my own sanity.
I am sorry I lost my temper and I will try not to be a distraction.
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by amok » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:09 pm
I'm trying really hard to see if my suspicion of Biliruben is more related to personal affront to his condescending attitude (as I see it) or the substance of his posts. I'm still bothered by the remark about seeing Nightson as Townish early on in the game (from pattern of voting, when Nightson practically posted nothing else besides three different votes on Day 1), and then not so much toward the end (when Nightson voted to lynch Scum btern). How does that make any sense at all? I'm seeing an attempt to confuse by means of invoking some sort of woo-ish Mafia superpower. If some of you who have played with him before have more insight (does he, in fact, have uncanny ability?), it would be good to share. Thanks.
I'm also uncomfortable with the interaction between DP and Diva. DP (and others, granted) remarked a few times that Diva was being too calm to be Town, and lo and behold Diva throws a fit. Followed by DP saying "Now, there's Town Diva."
There's still a little time, but for now...
##vote DP[/]##
It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important.
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by r.c » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:10 pm
Zigmen wrote:
If Scum knew that B.Tern was Scum and in the lead for the lynch and therefore they were about to lose a player anyway, and the choice of who they would lose (B.Tern or Shizz) was that close, wouldn't they simple try to bolster the Shizz BW with one more vote? Such a move would have saved the premium player over the iffy player, right?
The votes on b.tern came towards the end of the day. I think the reason scum didn't do anything about b.tern's lynch was probably because they were not around.
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by amok » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:11 pm
Bad coding.
##vote DP##
It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important.
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by Feck » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:23 pm
##vote Amok##
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by amok » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:24 pm
divagreen wrote:I shouldn't have to throw a temper tantrum in order to convince people that I am town. I don't mind getting lynched when I am scum. Ffs, I have even helped you guys by self-voting or giving myself away. I don't mind getting lynched for when I have shitty play like in the last game. I was upset over that game because of my behaviour and how ruthlessly I taunted Oblivion. I am even learning to get over being lynched by scum, although it still gives me a butthurt that they can do it so easily.
What I DO mind is someone who claims to be able to read me early in a game (which is a lie), takes what I say and acts like it is her own idea, misrepresents what I say and fucking creates drama by taking things to a personal level while trying to maintain that I am the only one doing it. I think Irre is town because she is not one to do the slimy scum. She is simply delusional. I am ignoring her from here on out.
I am trying to be calmer in my play and that is what is reflected at TR. I am trying to bring that sense of calm here because I am tired of this crap. I want my games to be cleaner for my own sanity.
I am sorry I lost my temper and I will try not to be a distraction.
I missed that post while I was writing.
##unvote DP##
##vote Biliruben##
There's still time. If anyone reading has played with Biliruben before, I'm open to hearing thoughts about his typical method of play as well as his skill (if he's being realistic about his own abilities, rather than just it being puffery).
It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important.
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by divagreen » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:28 pm
That is okay, Amok. You are far from cleared for me because of this post:
Yes. I wrote that very clumsily. I meant a few people seemed to saying that while self-voting is apparently suspicious, it's also not enough of a Scum-tell to be sure. There were examples given when Town did it.
I was the only one who had provided an example, which was Gonzo and we had an epic battle over it.
This explanation also does not go with your reasoning for voting DP. The logic does not follow.
But I am letting it go for now.
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by Gonzo » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:29 pm
I do not like the bilirubin wagon at all. I don't see much logic in the votes put to him. We played together at TR and this reminds me of his town game. I haven't seen him as scum, yet, so I don't know his range as a player, but in this game he seems similar to how he played in Game of Thrones.
On that note, vote diva. The theatrical flailing isn't fooling me. It comes off very much like an act. Why self-vote and then unvote again?
Don't go near that elevator - that's just what they want us to do... trap us in a steel box and take us down to the basement.
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by Gonzo » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:30 pm
Feck why are you voting for amok?
Don't go near that elevator - that's just what they want us to do... trap us in a steel box and take us down to the basement.
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by Mantisdreamz » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:33 pm
divagreen wrote:I shouldn't have to throw a temper tantrum in order to convince people that I am town. I don't mind getting lynched when I am scum. Ffs, I have even helped you guys by self-voting or giving myself away. I don't mind getting lynched for when I have shitty play like in the last game. I was upset over that game because of my behaviour and how ruthlessly I taunted Oblivion. I am even learning to get over being lynched by scum, although it still gives me a butthurt that they can do it so easily.
What I DO mind is someone who claims to be able to read me early in a game (which is a lie), takes what I say and acts like it is her own idea, misrepresents what I say and fucking creates drama by taking things to a personal level while trying to maintain that I am the only one doing it. I think Irre is town because she is not one to do the slimy scum. She is simply delusional. I am ignoring her from here on out.
I am trying to be calmer in my play and that is what is reflected at TR. I am trying to bring that sense of calm here because I am tired of this crap. I want my games to be cleaner for my own sanity.
I am sorry I lost my temper and I will try not to be a distraction.
that's true, you usually joke around if you are scum and getting lynched. no need to draw this out or anything - but, just want to say one thing... that i think you may be misunderstanding irre's intentions. she said that you were steering the b.ternarius bandwagon - iow, from her perspective that's what it looked like. there was no
purposeful misinterpretation, just misinterpretation, which is what always happens in mafia. don't like to see you guys getting all personal with each other. that is all.
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by praying » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:33 pm
high folks...I had password problems and could not get in. I Need to cathc up from page 3 from where I left off yesterday, but first I am going to Costco.
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by r.c » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:34 pm
I'll go with DP today.
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