So, Ron Paul is the pro-Peace candidate for US President

[Tyrannical]

So, Ron Paul is the pro-Peace candidate for US President.

What do you "progressives" think about that ?

I'm sure he still wants to starve/torture poor people though

[Tero]

Well, if he closes down Government and does not collect a salary but goes home to Texas, there would be something there. We would save $400 000. OK, peanuts.

Forget it, then.

[Tyrannical]

Well, if he closes down Government and does not collect a salary but goes home to Texas, there would be something there. We would save $400 000. OK, peanuts.

Forget it, then.

Don't tempt him. I'm not convinced he believes in much of a federal government.

[Atheist-Lite]

Well, if he closes down Government and does not collect a salary but goes home to Texas, there would be something there. We would save $400 000. OK, peanuts.

Forget it, then.

Don't tempt him. I'm not convinced he believes in much of a federal government.

When I hear a politician use a word like peace I start thinking about bomb shelters.

[MrJonno]

Anyone who uses the word 'liberty' is highly suspect its almost as bad as 'family' values

[Tyrannical]

Well, if he closes down Government and does not collect a salary but goes home to Texas, there would be something there. We would save $400 000. OK, peanuts.

Forget it, then.

Don't tempt him. I'm not convinced he believes in much of a federal government.

When I hear a politician use a word like peace I start thinking about bomb shelters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_ ... tervention

Paul's stance on foreign policy is one of consistent non-intervention,[10][11] opposing wars of aggression and entangling alliances with other nations.[12]

Paul advocates bringing troops home from U.S. military bases in Korea, Japan, and Europe, among others

He certainly seems willing to take peaceful steps.

[Atheist-Lite]

Well, if he closes down Government and does not collect a salary but goes home to Texas, there would be something there. We would save $400 000. OK, peanuts.

Forget it, then.

Don't tempt him. I'm not convinced he believes in much of a federal government.

When I hear a politician use a word like peace I start thinking about bomb shelters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_ ... tervention

Paul's stance on foreign policy is one of consistent non-intervention,[10][11] opposing wars of aggression and entangling alliances with other nations.[12]

Paul advocates bringing troops home from U.S. military bases in Korea, Japan, and Europe, among others

He certainly seems willing to take talk peaceful steps.

[Tyrannical]

This is actually quite interesting.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/opinion/j ... ign-policy

Contra the Republican neoconservative establishment, he thinks the current course of waging an interminable War on Terror for the sake of establishing “democratic” governments throughout the Middle East (and beyond?) is most unwise. America’s crusade to transform the world into its image — what else could it be, given that we have “troops in 135 countries” and “900 [military] bases” around the world? — has had the effect of transforming America from a Republic into an empire. But empire and liberty are incompatible. Paul is swift and decisive: “The American Empire is the enemy of American freedom. It is every bit as much the enemy of American citizens as it is of its victims around the world.”

As Paul correctly states, an empire “is incompatible with a free society,” for the former “requires perpetual war and preparation for war.” As many observers — students of the classical conservative tradition in particular — have long noted, a “free society” is at no time more unrecognizable to itself than during times of war. And when this “war” is undeclared, as is our current War on Terror — that is, when the Constitution’s demand for a declaration of war by Congress is ignored — American-style liberty is dealt a blow of incalculable proportions.

[redunderthebed]

This is actually quite interesting.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/opinion/j ... ign-policy

Contra the Republican neoconservative establishment, he thinks the current course of waging an interminable War on Terror for the sake of establishing “democratic” governments throughout the Middle East (and beyond?) is most unwise. America’s crusade to transform the world into its image — what else could it be, given that we have “troops in 135 countries” and “900 [military] bases” around the world? — has had the effect of transforming America from a Republic into an empire. But empire and liberty are incompatible. Paul is swift and decisive: “The American Empire is the enemy of American freedom. It is every bit as much the enemy of American citizens as it is of its victims around the world.”

As Paul correctly states, an empire “is incompatible with a free society,” for the former “requires perpetual war and preparation for war.” As many observers — students of the classical conservative tradition in particular — have long noted, a “free society” is at no time more unrecognizable to itself than during times of war. And when this “war” is undeclared, as is our current War on Terror — that is, when the Constitution’s demand for a declaration of war by Congress is ignored — American-style liberty is dealt a blow of incalculable proportions.

He sounds somewhat reasonable tbh empire is always an enemy of freedom no matter form it takes.

[charlou]

Great ambition is the passion of a great character. Those endowed with it may perform very good or very bad acts. All depends on the principles which direct them.

Napoleon Bonaparte

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Great ambition is the passion of a great character. Those endowed with it may perform very good or very bad acts. All depends on the principles which direct them.

Napoleon Bonaparte

Meh, self-reporting.

[charlou]

If you want a thing done well, do it yourself.

Napoleon Bonaparte

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"I'm normal, because I say so." Gotta love the little guy.

[charlou]

Flippancy aside, there are enlightened, peaceful cultures who mind their own business .... I try to imagine America in this light and it's a case of I'll believe it when I see it.

This is not a reflection of my thoughts on the appropriateness of intervention, btw.

[Tyrannical]

Flippancy aside, there are enlightened, peaceful cultures who mind their own business .... I try to imagine America in this light and it's a case of I'll believe it when I see it.

This is not a reflection of my thoughts on the appropriateness of intervention, btw.

The US used to be before we got dragged into WWI. Hardly a surprise the Germans would see to it that we get dragged into the sequel. That just set the stage for everything afterwards.