Hitman: Blood Money Mafia - A Dance With The Devil

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Re: Hitman: Blood Money Mafia - A Dance With The Devil (Part

Post by oblivion » Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:45 pm

^^ specifically that she's agent 47?

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Post by Magicziggy » Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:55 pm

My case? It's a stone cold certainty that Agent 47 is a guest. And she wifom's you as a suspect. And then it's "OMG I'm so slooooow".

I have no case. I call it as I see it. I haven't done all the legwork that Amok has and I do bow to her endeavor. But that pinged bigtime.

The godkill. Will she won't she? Now she's been told she can't. That's bullshit. My understanding was that if you, Oblivion had posted your pm you would have been eliminated from the game. ie no win for you. I bowed to your GM knowledge when you called it differently. But Gonzo has called Irre on it. It's all gameplay. If you are going to post your pm, you do it and you are out of the game. You don't make a song and dance about it and then not do it. So I think she's been gameplaying trying to look like she's town by doing what you did. It's not working for me. She bussed Aza afaic.

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Post by Magicziggy » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:04 pm

##vote Ob##
I'd go Amok but I know she felt pressured last game.

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Post by oblivion » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:09 pm

Magicziggy wrote:My case? It's a stone cold certainty that Agent 47 is a guest. And she wifom's you as a suspect. And then it's "OMG I'm so slooooow".

I have no case. I call it as I see it. I haven't done all the legwork that Amok has and I do bow to her endeavor. But that pinged bigtime.

The godkill. Will she won't she? Now she's been told she can't. That's bullshit. My understanding was that if you, Oblivion had posted your pm you would have been eliminated from the game. ie no win for you. I bowed to your GM knowledge when you called it differently. But Gonzo has called Irre on it. It's all gameplay. If you are going to post your pm, you do it and you are out of the game. You don't make a song and dance about it and then not do it. So I think she's been gameplaying trying to look like she's town by doing what you did. It's not working for me. She bussed Aza afaic.
You've been fosing and voting her for a few days now. why is it that your case is based only on the last 24 hours or so?

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Post by Magicziggy » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:21 pm

Since the Aza bus. Yes.

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Post by oblivion » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:29 pm

Whether it is accurate or not, most players think that Aza's identity was unknown to the other scum-aligned players.

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Post by ksen » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:36 pm

@@vote oblivion@@

##vote r.c.##

I think we have the numbers to make this work. If fucking Shizzle was around or if gonzo would just replace him we should have this in the bag.

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Post by r.c » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:12 pm

amok wrote:
r.c wrote:Is it because I pointed out that the night actions do not include guard, the only reason to lynch me? This would directly imply that you think A47 was not able to privately communicate with scum. You would then have to answer what would be the role of scum in NKs?

If I was A47, I would have gone straight for zigmen instead of ani.
I don't see why. If you're Agent 47, Zigmen was no threat to you. He had already cleared you.

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zigmen was my third target.

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Post by r.c » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:13 pm

r.c wrote:
amok wrote:
r.c wrote:Is it because I pointed out that the night actions do not include guard, the only reason to lynch me? This would directly imply that you think A47 was not able to privately communicate with scum. You would then have to answer what would be the role of scum in NKs?

If I was A47, I would have gone straight for zigmen instead of ani.
I don't see why. If you're Agent 47, Zigmen was no threat to you. He had already cleared you.

##vote RC##
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zigmen was my third target.
I meant zigmen would have been my third target.

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Post by oblivion » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:20 pm

r.c wrote:
amok wrote:
r.c wrote:Is it because I pointed out that the night actions do not include guard, the only reason to lynch me? This would directly imply that you think A47 was not able to privately communicate with scum. You would then have to answer what would be the role of scum in NKs?

If I was A47, I would have gone straight for zigmen instead of ani.
I don't see why. If you're Agent 47, Zigmen was no threat to you. He had already cleared you.

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zigmen was my third target.
what?

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Post by r.c » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:28 pm

oblivion wrote:Interesitng point, something we haven't revisited. that's part of it. but, it's also that I have difficulty believing a townie would blurt that out without realizing that it could get the seer killed, especially after Ani had posted that he would protect Zigmen. There's the way townies think, and there's the way scum think. stuff that's important to townies may seem like no big deal to scum. it's very hard to keep the town mindset going on in parallel all game.
I realize that was a mistake. There's nothing more I can say about it.
oblivion wrote: you encouraged Zigmen to view contra, who flipped scum, but noted that it was probably too late to change his view request.

hmm.
I didn't know at that time whether night actions could be changed. I encouraged zigmen even after he said he could change his night action.
oblivion wrote: Who do you think should be lynched today?
I don't know, I thought irre's mass out was hugely helpful but probably she didn't realize how helpful it would have been to town.
But, I think I'll go with MZ first.

##vote MZ##

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Post by r.c » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:44 pm

I've been too much of a distraction. I won't defend myself anymore.

Who would be the next target (irre or MZ) when I flip town. Pretty sure Ob is going to be killed tonight.

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Post by oblivion » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:51 pm

r.c wrote:
r.c wrote:
amok wrote:
r.c wrote:Is it because I pointed out that the night actions do not include guard, the only reason to lynch me? This would directly imply that you think A47 was not able to privately communicate with scum. You would then have to answer what would be the role of scum in NKs?

If I was A47, I would have gone straight for zigmen instead of ani.
I don't see why. If you're Agent 47, Zigmen was no threat to you. He had already cleared you.

##vote RC##
@@vote Oblivion@@
zigmen was my third target.
I meant zigmen would have been my third target.
what does this mean?

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Post by r.c » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:01 pm

oblivion wrote:
r.c wrote:
r.c wrote:
amok wrote:
r.c wrote:Is it because I pointed out that the night actions do not include guard, the only reason to lynch me? This would directly imply that you think A47 was not able to privately communicate with scum. You would then have to answer what would be the role of scum in NKs?

If I was A47, I would have gone straight for zigmen instead of ani.
I don't see why. If you're Agent 47, Zigmen was no threat to you. He had already cleared you.

##vote RC##
@@vote Oblivion@@
zigmen was my third target.
I meant zigmen would have been my third target.
what does this mean?
Feck, and UT had been killed by A47. Zigmen (Anthony Martinez) was A47's third target. I assumed that targets would have been a priority over the rest of the town folks. What I am trying to tell is that the night actions are not consistent with what you are accusing me of. You say I pointed out that there was no guarding action, yet Ani was killed before zigmen.

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Post by oblivion » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:10 pm

r.c wrote:
oblivion wrote:
r.c wrote:
r.c wrote:
amok wrote: I don't see why. If you're Agent 47, Zigmen was no threat to you. He had already cleared you.

##vote RC##
@@vote Oblivion@@
zigmen was my third target.
I meant zigmen would have been my third target.
what does this mean?
Feck, and UT had been killed by A47. Zigmen (Anthony Martinez) was A47's third target. I assumed that targets would have been a priority over the rest of the town folks. What I am trying to tell is that the night actions are not consistent with what you are accusing me of. You say I pointed out that there was no guarding action, yet Ani was killed before zigmen.
that is true, but we have no idea how the kill ability was allocated to start with, though it sure seems like the hitman would be, well, the hitman

hmm.

r.c's kinda making sense to me here.

##unvote r.c##

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