Tea Party vs Zombie game thread

[Magicziggy]

No, the object is inconsequential. It only registered once, before I started playing.

Never mind. You have the info now. Do with it what you will.

Missing my point. Nothing in a role pm is inconsequential.

I didn't mean it not to register. It just didn't.
First game back in about 3 months, and I don't intend it to consume me like it used to.

[def]

I haven't received any gifts.

I'm kind of stumped as to who to vote for, so I'm going to leave it for now, and go to bed soon. I should be up in plenty of time to make a decision on my vote.

[Mantisdreamz]

I did have an object and it was stolen from me last night

i'm going to ##vote def## - but will be back before nightfall

[amok]

OK, just thinking out loud here, so to speak.

1) The most likely alignment at the start was two Scum, one Indie, seven Town.

2) In a game of just 10 total, it seems logical that the Indie's win condition would be quite simple, but just surviving with either Town or Scum is too easy. It has to be stealing either a certain number of gifts or stealing a specific one.

3) It's probably more important today to lynch the Indie, than the last Scum (another NK & we can still win - barely, but still possible), but another theft might net the Thief either the magic number or the magic item.

Does anyone see a problem with my logic? I'm posting this early, because I've been wrong as often as I've been right, and I'd like input.

[Feck]

No, the object is inconsequential. It only registered once, before I started playing.

Never mind. You have the info now. Do with it what you will.

Missing my point. Nothing in a role pm is inconsequential.

I didn't mean it not to register. It just didn't.
First game back in about 3 months, and I don't intend it to consume me like it used to.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBQ2ZhN3 ... re=related[/youtube]

[amok]

I did have an object and it was stolen from me last night

i'm going to ##vote def## - but will be back before nightfall

Mantis, why Def? Is it the "crap shoot" comment that's bothering you, or is there something else?

[def]

I did have an object and it was stolen from me last night

i'm going to ##vote def## - but will be back before nightfall

Ridiculous. I'm assuming you just ignored the ideas in this post http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 16#p922516 You've been entirely unhelpful in this game so far.

##vote Mantis##

[b.ternarius]

OK, just thinking out loud here, so to speak.

1) The most likely alignment at the start was two Scum, one Indie, seven Town.

2) In a game of just 10 total, it seems logical that the Indie's win condition would be quite simple, but just surviving with either Town or Scum is too easy. It has to be stealing either a certain number of gifts or stealing a specific one.

3) It's probably more important today to lynch the Indie, than the last Scum (another NK & we can still win - barely, but still possible), but another theft might net the Thief either the magic number or the magic item.

Does anyone see a problem with my logic? I'm posting this early, because I've been wrong as often as I've been right, and I'd like input.

Except it seems clear we have a Thief, and the role of Thief according to mafia wiki is ordinarily a town role. We don't want to lynch the thief. The object the thief is looking for may be important to town, not scum. That's why I gave the thief a hint about my object.

We need to lynch scum. I'm still seeing mz and def as scummy.

Def, besides accusing you, what other reason do you have for thinking mantis is scummy. Because just about everyone has questioned you, so why do you find her more scummy than the rest of us?

Why, for example, don't you find mz's absent-minded 'I forgot about the object' scummy? Because I do.

[b.ternarius]

amok - yes - stolen
bt -yes
mz - yes
feck - no
def - no
mantis - yes - stolen

[def]

Def, besides accusing you, what other reason do you have for thinking mantis is scummy. Because just about everyone has questioned you, so why do you find her more scummy than the rest of us?

Why, for example, don't you find mz's absent-minded 'I forgot about the object' scummy? Because I do.

It goes back to day one. A number of the players here regularly play on the RS site, so that old 'crapshoot' comment should have meant nothing to them. I can accept that there are different mafia etiquette traditions here. Mantis made an issue of it though.

As for MZ, he was under no obligation to volunteer that information, and, though it could be a ploy, I think a scum player simply wouldn't bring it up. Are you assuming that he's lying about having the object?

[b.ternarius]

current lynch votes

mantis - mz, -mz, def
def - mantis

[Mantisdreamz]

I did have an object and it was stolen from me last night

i'm going to ##vote def## - but will be back before nightfall

Ridiculous. I'm assuming you just ignored the ideas in this post http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 16#p922516 You've been entirely unhelpful in this game so far.

##vote Mantis##

Well just because you say something doesn't mean it's true -- this is mafia, where scum are supposed to lie you know.

I did have an object and it was stolen from me last night

i'm going to ##vote def## - but will be back before nightfall

Mantis, why Def? Is it the "crap shoot" comment that's bothering you, or is there something else?

The reason is mostly because I'm getting more of a town read from you, b.t and Feck. So that leaves MZ and def.

Now, I could be completely wrong with my 'town reads' -- and i'll have to look over the days again, but this is the sense that I have gotten so far

[Magicziggy]

I have feck as town. My oversight definitely pings. In my defense, talk of gifts did not help. My object is not a gift.

I have b.t. As town. It is too far fetched for her to have contrived the ksen bussing. I have her as the indie.

I have def as town. For the same reason as b.t.

I have amok as town. Just his posting style.

I have mantis as scum. Her vote on def is strange. Like she's afraid of leading a vote on me.
##vote:mantis##

I will also vote amok mayor but don't know how to do colour on this phone.

@@vote:amok@@

[Magicziggy]

Cross post with mantis

[b.ternarius]

Def, besides accusing you, what other reason do you have for thinking mantis is scummy. Because just about everyone has questioned you, so why do you find her more scummy than the rest of us?

Why, for example, don't you find mz's absent-minded 'I forgot about the object' scummy? Because I do.

It goes back to day one. A number of the players here regularly play on the RS site, so that old 'crapshoot' comment should have meant nothing to them. I can accept that there are different mafia etiquette traditions here. Mantis made an issue of it though.

As for MZ, he was under no obligation to volunteer that information, and, though it could be a ploy, I think a scum player simply wouldn't bring it up. Are you assuming that he's lying about having the object?

Mantis has played at TR a lot, where your crapshoot comment would have been notable. And also here, where I damn near got lynched first day of the Innsmouth game for blurting out something similar. So her seeing that as scummy is not a scum tell.

mz certainly didn't have to volunteer the information. It's his excuse for not volunteering it earlier that makes it look like he decided it would be townish to have an object and made a fumbling post about it. I'm not assuming it's a lie. I'm just pointing out that it is very odd, given the importance we have placed on the exact wording of role pms in this game, that mz would consider that part of the role pm as inconsequential enough to forget.