Mythadventures game thread: Mythconceptions

[divagreen]

I was not notified of being bus driven. Sorry, but I am not buying the claim. And I am not going to lynch another townie just to give her her jollies so she can play another day.

[r.c]

For me it is between b.MSG, gib for now.

gib was really good in his analysis on day 1. After that it looks like his interest for town has tapered off.
But I'll go with b.MSG for now.

##vote b.MSG##

[divagreen]

Good call on the vig kill of Irre. I was really on the fence about her. Glad somebody stepped up and took care of that for us.

Grit I agree with some of estimations of players...I am still suss of Higgs because he is looking very eager today. I am especially concerned about Aza. He is not playing even remotely like his usual self and that is bugging me. He is probably number 1 on my list of scum suspects.

UT and MSG are looking a bit better to me today too.

Oh and also, "eager"? In what way am I "eager"? In what way is that a scum tell. Mabye you arejust a total noob, but that comment seems pretty silly for an FOS.

How are UT and MSG looking to you now?

Also, nice cheerleading.

You know, in the Elfquest game Aza and Zigmen went after me pretty hard. I seem to remember you telling me that I needed to grow a thicker skin when I FOSed them for being scum and picking on a noob (it was my first game here). Guess what? I was right. I have been waiting months to tell I told you so.

Yes, you are eager. I am FOSing that. 3 posts right off the bat and you have gained sudden interest in the game. Yes, I think it is suspicious.

I think MSG's claim stinks. UT, I am not sure about. It would be strange to me if Irre and UT were at each other's throats the way they were and them both turn out to be scum. I know Irre has gone after her own scummates before but that seems to me like it would be over the top. He isn't cleared but I am feeling better about him again.

##vote MSG##

[Uselesstwit]

so am I barking up the wrong tree with gib?

I kind of think so..

okay, let me give you my full thoughts, at the very least it'll show how twisty my thoughts can get in this game.

We have the post where he worries about the mayor vote, which his very next post contradicts. If he were truly worried about the outcome of the mayor vote he would have checked the vote count(he didn't) and voted someone that had a vote on ksen(msg had no vote at the time) This makes me think that the first post I linked is just a filler post, either trying to look town or trying to set up his subsequent vote post. Neither is something I consider protown. Now considering gib's game talent I wouldn't expect that from him unless it was a slip up under pressure. What pressure was there at that time for him? He wasn't going to be lynched, most people thought he was looking townish so what was it? The only thing I can see is that irre was in the lynch lead and he was about to try and shift that vote.

Then I looked at his other day one activities centering around irre. What struck me then is that on a day when he's voting and unvoting for several people in a row, all of a sudden when he gets to irre he steps down to a fos instead of a lynch vote. Why the sudden change up in behavior?

Add those two concerns to the way he's voting without trying to form his trade mark town council and I'm feeling pretty strongly about this.

in fact

##vote gib##

[gib]

now back to my thoughts about gib. Read this post and the one below it.

http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 20#p893410

One of the first things Ob taught me about mafia is looking for people whose actions don't match what they're saying. Here we have gib worrying about having enough votes to get ksen lynched and thinking that the vote could come down to who is the mayor. Then what are his actions after saying that? to mayor vote someone with no other mayor votes on them, who has no current lynch vote. And this was a mayor vote on msg fairly close behind where msg unvotes irre in a way that several people found suspicious. It feels like a pat on a head to try and groom msg onto the ksen bw.

yeh it was a bit of a mess, read the pages leading up to it and you will see i started going into one about ksen at the point where i made my 'long post'. There was a general feeling (or so i thought) that irre should be given a break (something about her kids) and others seemed fairly certain on ksen too. time was running out and at the time i trusted msg

i wasnt keeping track of the mayor vote that's true

so you were worried the vote would come down to the mayor vote but couldn't be bothered to look up the vote count? There was a vote count from ob 3 pages ahead of those posts of yours I linked. And even if you thought msg was a good choice for mayor AND close to the lead in the mayor votes(he had 0 at the time) he also had just unvoted irre. How is someone with no current vote even considered when you're worried the day's lynch will come down to who's mayor? Your two posts directly contradict themselves.

townies make mistakes too

[divagreen]

r.c. that was very very followy and that makes me very very nervous.

[gib]

i don't think MSG/b should be lynched today - we can see if the story stacks up tomorrow and if there's the slightest doubt we lynch him/her

mind you i'm pretty sure that's the way it's going

[gib]

starting to wonder about diva though... I can't recall having an overly good sense that she is town. what are other's thoughts on her?

well she pretty much admitted she was being mentored, so it's hard to get a read. Earlier i thought town, now she feels more scummy but i don't really have anything objective to go on

[Uselesstwit]

now back to my thoughts about gib. Read this post and the one below it.

http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 20#p893410

One of the first things Ob taught me about mafia is looking for people whose actions don't match what they're saying. Here we have gib worrying about having enough votes to get ksen lynched and thinking that the vote could come down to who is the mayor. Then what are his actions after saying that? to mayor vote someone with no other mayor votes on them, who has no current lynch vote. And this was a mayor vote on msg fairly close behind where msg unvotes irre in a way that several people found suspicious. It feels like a pat on a head to try and groom msg onto the ksen bw.

yeh it was a bit of a mess, read the pages leading up to it and you will see i started going into one about ksen at the point where i made my 'long post'. There was a general feeling (or so i thought) that irre should be given a break (something about her kids) and others seemed fairly certain on ksen too. time was running out and at the time i trusted msg

i wasnt keeping track of the mayor vote that's true

so you were worried the vote would come down to the mayor vote but couldn't be bothered to look up the vote count? There was a vote count from ob 3 pages ahead of those posts of yours I linked. And even if you thought msg was a good choice for mayor AND close to the lead in the mayor votes(he had 0 at the time) he also had just unvoted irre. How is someone with no current vote even considered when you're worried the day's lynch will come down to who's mayor? Your two posts directly contradict themselves.

townies make mistakes too

yes, yes they do. I'm not really concerned about you voting wrong, it's how your vote shows the preceding post to be a lie that is setting off the alarms for me. it just seems so obvious that you weren't really concerned about who ended up as mayor, but yet felt the need to say something that made you look like an indecisive towny immediately before your vote.

That said I have been known to drop into inspector dean mode, and can be eerily perceptive or mind bogglingly wrong.

[gib]

For me it is between b.MSG, gib for now.

gib was really good in his analysis on day 1. After that it looks like his interest for town has tapered off.
But I'll go with b.MSG for now.

##vote b.MSG##

i generally do those kinda posts when i feel i could be the nightkill and want to set out my thoughts for posterity. Hpwever, if you are saying it's more helpful than my usual banter then maybe i should do another in the same format, could just update the old one i guess

[r.c]

r.c. that was very very followy and that makes me very very nervous.

I voted for MSG even on day 2. Its not followy .

[higgs2]

##vote diva## flaily. No specifics. (I don't remember that game or playing mafia at all with you before tbh.)

still sus of b.msg but concerned about voting an outed special, even though the story is p. dicey. On the other hand, it is weird that scum gave her a pass on her lame half out as msg, msg was scummy. Would like to hear more from her.

Would like to hear from others on grit.

[gib]

higgs i don't think grit is scum

it bothers me that people still want to lynch msgb - like you say an outed special whose story we can check tomorrow

diva is as good a lynch choice as any tbh

##vote diva##

[b.ternarius]

No, all I can do is switch one player with another. I assume, perhaps wrongly, that if someone was bwed, I could switch them with someone else for the lynch. But probably not, like I said, never had this role before. So it wasn't a good example.

You're spending too much time on me, and I'm spending too much time defending my self, a fault of mine in mafia.

I'm an outed special, that's it.

[higgs2]

This is what I would like to know, b. msg: why did you say something about busdrivering someone who was about to be lynched? Why do you think that no one has fessed up to being on your bus? Wth do you think msg meant when she suggesting that silencing would be a cover for the don? I thought it could be to direct attention from the real don. she backed off when called on it.