He should try the Amish? Their yonks ahead of anyone else out there.King David wrote:Unitarian Universalism seems to possess all the ritual and fellowship of religion, but without any of the dogma. I'd say that is your best bet.
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I've always had a soft spot for the Quakers. In fact when I was still 'exploring' I attended a few of their meetings. I enjoyed them too for the most part as people sit in silence mostly and stand and speak if the 'spirit moves them'. People expressed views on all sorts of things. One of the discouraging aspects though concerned an elderly lady who befriended me who had been going all her life but still 'could not believe in god'.
Seemed a tiny bit pointless..unless like Dev, you are seeking ritual rather than reality.
Seemed a tiny bit pointless..unless like Dev, you are seeking ritual rather than reality.
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Please keep posting. I would find it utterly interesting to follow a person who changes his/her beliefs at will. For my self I "know" that would be impossible. No matter how much I would like or love any "ritual, community..." I just could not make myself believe in X.
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Really? I hated all that shit with a passion. Even if I had ever believed in God, I would have still hated the pointlessly absurd rituals and all the other associated crapdevogue wrote:I've realised lately that I now miss the ritual, spectacle, comfort, and warmth of religion. I don't know how, but in the years to come I'm going to try to rediscover blind faith.
As for fellowship, my parents made friends with a few families at church, and we would visit them occasionally. I hated them. They were unbelievably gay, and dreadfully boring.
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I don't know if you are referring to me, but I have never changed my beliefs 'at will'. I started out as a non-practising vaguely religious protestant which was my family background, was 'born again' in my mid/late teens, lost that pretty quickly and moved to what at the time seemed more acceptable, to me, versions of some sort of spirituality/cosmology. This led me to the exploration of Hinduism (I lived in an Ashram for a while, went to India and all that crap), and ultimately to Buddhism, which was but a short step away from atheism. It has felt like a coherent journey using intuition, reason and common sense all the way. If I lacked one thing it was self-discipline. Maybe just as well or I would still be sitting in an ashram meditating to this day!MiM wrote:Please keep posting. I would find it utterly interesting to follow a person who changes his/her beliefs at will. For my self I "know" that would be impossible. No matter how much I would like or love any "ritual, community..." I just could not make myself believe in X.
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Definitely not, and none else. I am in no way questioning that personal beliefs change (that is obvious). What I think I am questioning is the power to change your own believes from convenienceRum wrote:I don't know if you are referring to me...
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C'mon, he means going back to the Catholic church... to them, anybody under 60 is a great long term gain... they can't affrod to turn people away at the rate they are hemorrhaging or losing to protos and muslims.Crumple wrote:That only happens in the movies, these religious folks are gonna tear your limbs off in the real world.devogue wrote:I doubt it. I would be their poster boy.Crumple wrote:They'll crucify you once they find out your history here. That religion takes no prisoners.
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Religion is for two things
1. seeking
2. company
take your pick.
1. seeking
2. company
take your pick.
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Be a Unitarian. You can claim that if God did exist, there would only be one!devogue wrote:Seeking company
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Sadly the company of fools, if the know but do not act.devogue wrote:Seeking company
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You can regain the ritual, spectacle, comfort and warmth by watching Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will. The Nazis had all of it in spades.devogue wrote:I've realised lately that I now miss the ritual, spectacle, comfort, and warmth of religion.
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It wasn't entirely ... Catholic, though.Seraph wrote:You can regain the ritual, spectacle, comfort and warmth by watching Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will. The Nazis had all of it in spades.devogue wrote:I've realised lately that I now miss the ritual, spectacle, comfort, and warmth of religion.
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