The Bin Laden Blowback Begins With Sellafield

[Seth]

You've gotta be kidding me. AQ and Taliban types have done more atrocities (including innumerable beheadings) than I could possibly list here. Do an internet search for "Nick Berg" and look for a video. Go ahead.

You have a problem with beheadings as a form of capital punishment? Well then, you also must have a problem with the American hanging of Saddam in Iraq. Fact is, it is American soldiers who are the ones who engage in the torture and horrible acts of death. The Muslim militants are restricted from such acts.

What a liar you are. That's all I dare say.

First, beheadings as a form of legitimate execution is somewhat bloody and barbaric, but a reasonably quick and humane method of killing someone, so I don't have a problem with the practice, just with who is doing it and why. Terrorist jihadist beheadings are not "capital punishment," they are outright barbaric and lawless murder by psychopathic killers with no respect for life.

Second, No Americans were present at Saddam's hanging, which was performed by Iraqi officials after he was tried by an Iraqi court with an Iraqi jury and sentenced by Iraqi judges.

We just found and dragged the cowardly piece of shit out of his shithole in the ground where he was hiding. I'd have just bulldozed the hole full of dirt and forgotten about him.

Third, American soldiers act within the laws of war. Islamic terrorists do not.

Fourth, your assertion that Muslim militants are restricted from torture and horrible acts of death is the biggest, most egregious and repulsive lie I've heard from you yet. They sawed Daniel Perl's head off with a dull knife, and that was hardly the only barbaric, cruel and evil terrorist killing they perpetrated. They strapped explosives to mental defectives and children and blew them up. They killed men, women and children indiscriminately with suicide bombs, they bury people and stone them to death, and they torture and abuse and then murder our soldiers whom they capture.

Your propagandistic radical Islamist apologia is nauseating in it's deliberate mendacity and distortion of fact.

[Ian]

You've gotta be kidding me. AQ and Taliban types have done more atrocities (including innumerable beheadings) than I could possibly list here. Do an internet search for "Nick Berg" and look for a video. Go ahead.

You have a problem with beheadings as a form of capital punishment? Well then, you also must have a problem with the American hanging of Saddam in Iraq. Fact is, it is American soldiers who are the ones who engage in the torture and horrible acts of death. The Muslim militants are restricted from such acts.

Wow. I thought you were just biased against Americans. I had no idea that you were so profoundly ignorant!

Really?? Are you really and truly that mind-fuckingly stupid? Really?

Ignorant is whitewashing what American troops do.

And where, exactly, did I do that?
When US troops are caught doing something in violation of the Law of Armed Conflict or other such rules, they get courts-martialed. "Your militants", as you put them, do not. Zarqawi himself personally sawed off the heads of some of his prisoners.

You're either a flat-out liar or simply ignorant/dumb. I don't suppose you bothered looking up that video I suggested?

Mostly likely you're just troling for the sake of trolling, because that's what you are. Nobody with two brain cells to rub together can honestly think that Al Qaeda and the Taliban are honorable and have had honorable policies towards in these conflicts. And I assume you've got two or three up there. No guesses from me about the quantity of drool on your keyboard, though.

[Gawd]

Ignorant is whitewashing what American troops do.

And where, exactly, did I do that?
When US troops are caught doing something in violation of the Law of Armed Conflict or other such rules, they get courts-martialed. "Your militants", as you put them, do not. Zarqawi himself personally sawed off the heads of some of his prisoners.

You're either a flat-out liar or simply ignorant/dumb. I don't suppose you bothered looking up that video I suggested?

Mostly likely you're just troling for the sake of trolling, because that's what you are. Nobody with two brain cells to rub together can honestly think that Al Qaeda and the Taliban are honorable and have had honorable policies towards in these conflicts. And I assume you've got two or three up there. No guesses from me about the quantity of drool on your keyboard, though.

You do it the time, like just in the post I'm responding to right now. The US interpretation of the "Law of Armed Conflict" is so bent, it gave George Bush and all the bombings of civilian villages a free pass. "My militants" practise guerilla warfare, get used to it. You know, like Vietnam.

Beheading someone is a legitimate method of killing. I'm sorry if it's not palatable for your refined American tastes where it must be done with a gun. Would you like me to get you some pictures and videos of American soldiers bombing the shit out of people?

Oh, and now you go to the name calling because you can't see things for what they are. "Al Qaeda" and the "Taliban" are not some centrally governed organization. They are anyone who opposes American occupation and extra-judicial activities with force. You like a clear cut "enemy" but there is no such thing. Your "War on Terror" is a never ending fantasy.

[Svartalf]

I don't suppose you Brits could move Sellafield further from Dublin and a bit closer to London? There's good chaps.

Actually, I hear they want to build an experimental reactor and fuel retreatment plant in the southern mountains of Mourne, as close to Dublin as they can make it their side of the border.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

That's so racist.

[Animavore]

I don't suppose you Brits could move Sellafield further from Dublin and a bit closer to London? There's good chaps.

Actually, I hear they want to build an experimental reactor and fuel retreatment plant in the southern mountains of Mourne, as close to Dublin as they can make it their side of the border.

You lie!

[Ian]

"Al Qaeda" and the "Taliban" are not some centrally governed organization. They are anyone who opposes American occupation and extra-judicial activities with force.

And apparently you prefer them over Americans. It's one thing to say that you despise America. But guess what genius - the enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"Al Qaeda" and the "Taliban" are not some centrally governed organization. They are anyone who opposes American occupation and extra-judicial activities with force.

And apparently you prefer them over Americans. It's one thing to say that you despise America. But guess what genius - the enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend.

Any enemy of Gawd's came count on me for beers.

[Gawd]

"Al Qaeda" and the "Taliban" are not some centrally governed organization. They are anyone who opposes American occupation and extra-judicial activities with force.

And apparently you prefer them over Americans. It's one thing to say that you despise America. But guess what genius - the enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend.

Who says I prefer one over the other? You guys do the same things, just that Americans act more pompously. And why are you insulting official American policy?

[Ian]

"Al Qaeda" and the "Taliban" are not some centrally governed organization. They are anyone who opposes American occupation and extra-judicial activities with force.

And apparently you prefer them over Americans. It's one thing to say that you despise America. But guess what genius - the enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend.

Who says I prefer one over the other? You guys do the same things, just that Americans act more pompously. And why are you insulting official American policy?

Well, that's something. It seemed clear enough that you were stating a preference when you said this:

So you pay your militants a salary and call then "soldiers" while mine do it for free and you call them "terrorists".

And the reason you think I'm insulting American policy is because 1) you think that's what American policy is, 2) you seem to think that my disagreeing with you means that my opinions are the exact opposite of yours, even though that would make me equally batshit, and 3) you don't read carefully - you're the king of assumption-making.

[Seth]

You do it the time, like just in the post I'm responding to right now. The US interpretation of the "Law of Armed Conflict" is so bent, it gave George Bush and all the bombings of civilian villages a free pass. "My militants" practise guerilla warfare, get used to it. You know, like Vietnam.

Your militants are amoral terrorist scum, and we are used to it, and we change the manner in which we wage war with them because of their refusal to be other than rabid beasts.

Beheading someone is a legitimate method of killing.

Perhaps in the heat of a face-to-face corps-a-corps swordfight, which no camel-fucking grashopper eating ignorant barbarian of an Arab terrorist has the guts to undertake, but not when you've captured an enemy soldier, or an innocent civilian of the nation you hate and he's on his knees with his hands bound behind him and you're making a terrorist video rejoicing at the brutal murder of a helpless person. That's pure, undiluted inhuman barbarism, and anyone that practices it, or supports it, needs to be quickly and completely dead at the earliest opportunity possible, in the interests of preserving civilization, of which they are no longer a part, and in the interests of the human race, of which they are also not a part, by their own barbaric acts.

I'm sorry if it's not palatable for your refined American tastes where it must be done with a gun. Would you like me to get you some pictures and videos of American soldiers bombing the shit out of people?

Bombing enemy forces is a legitimate act of warfare. Murdering hostages and prisoners is barbarism.

Oh, and now you go to the name calling because you can't see things for what they are. "Al Qaeda" and the "Taliban" are not some centrally governed organization.

Funny, because the cocksucker named in the OP happens to have been the leader of one, and the co-conspirator of the other. That both have a diffuse command structure doesn't change the fact that they are organized and self-named groups united in certain congruent ideological objectives.

They are anyone who opposes American occupation and extra-judicial activities with force.

Last I checked, we were in Afghanistan and Iraq at the invitation of the legitimately elected democratic governments. Thus, such opposition comprises a seditious, treasonous and disloyal group of terrorists who are disobeying their own duly-elected leaders.

You like a clear cut "enemy" but there is no such thing. Your "War on Terror" is a never ending fantasy.

Oh, it'll end eventually, when the last ignorant, camel-fucking, grasshopper eating, sister-banging barbarian Arab has blown himself up for Allah, or we've done it for them. We've got the stamina to do it, and the tide in the Arab world is turning away from radical jihadism to democracy, and pretty soon other, civilized and intelligent Arabs will take up arms to exterminate these sub-human animals who kill for their delusions.

[Gawd]

"Al Qaeda" and the "Taliban" are not some centrally governed organization. They are anyone who opposes American occupation and extra-judicial activities with force.

And apparently you prefer them over Americans. It's one thing to say that you despise America. But guess what genius - the enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend.

Who says I prefer one over the other? You guys do the same things, just that Americans act more pompously. And why are you insulting official American policy?

Well, that's something. It seemed clear enough that you were stating a preference when you said this:

So you pay your militants a salary and call then "soldiers" while mine do it for free and you call them "terrorists".

And the reason you think I'm insulting American policy is because 1) you think that's what American policy is, 2) you seem to think that my disagreeing with you means that my opinions are the exact opposite of yours, even though that would make me equally batshit, and 3) you don't read carefully.

Ian, it is you that don't read your own words carefully or comprehend American politics. "the enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend." is contradictory to the decades of American politics where the the enemy of your enemy *IS* your friend. For instance, in Afghanistan where the Americans supplied and funded the Taliban "resistance" against the Soviet Union. Guess what the "resistance" was? It was American funded "terrorism" and Osama bin Laden was part of it.

[Ian]

Well no shit Sherlock! I was stating what should've been the obvious. I'm not a walking advocate of all of US history. I was pointing out the absurdity of you referring to Al Qaeda and the Taliban as "your" militants. You're the only person I've ever encountered who's ever used quotation marks around the word "terrorists" when discussing Bin Laden's organization.

[Gawd]

Well no shit Sherlock! I was stating what should've been the obvious. I'm not a walking advocate of all of US history. I was pointing out the absurdity of you referring to Al Qaeda and the Taliban as "your" militants. You're the only person I've ever encountered who's ever used quotation marks around the word "terrorists" when discussing Bin Laden's organization.

Guess what your forefathers were? They were terrorists in the eyes of the British. So what if you think it is absurd that I refer to Al Qaeda and the Taliban as "mine"? To me, they are freedom fighters just like your forefathers.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Well no shit Sherlock! I was stating what should've been the obvious. I'm not a walking advocate of all of US history. I was pointing out the absurdity of you referring to Al Qaeda and the Taliban as "your" militants. You're the only person I've ever encountered who's ever used quotation marks around the word "terrorists" when discussing Bin Laden's organization.

Guess what your forefathers were? They were terrorists in the eyes of the British. So what if you think it is absurd that I refer to Al Qaeda and the Taliban as "mine"? To me, they are freedom fighters just like your forefathers.

Waiting to hear Ian's family tree.