Russian Roulette Game Thread

[Adenosine]

no way. it was the way she said it - I know her. I had no clue that she was a bomb when I unvoted - there's no way I would know that.

just to further explain that, because I realize it might be unclear. She sounded alarmed, which alarmed me enough to unvote her. Though, I didn't know she was a bomb.

Of course she was alarmed, she was about to get lynched. And she didn't know me so she was fine with me blowing up. But you, Mantis, you saw something else. I think Athene is onto something. I think the scum know there are bombs.

I also think you're being a dick Gonzo. You're bludgeoning Athene over your misunderstanding of her statement.

[irretating]

Does anyone know if a Town Bomb can kill a Seer?

You're happy to ask a game mechanics question ...

I'm wondering if scum knew in advance about some town members being bombs.

That would entirely defreat the purpose of having Town Bombs. That a weird statement, Athene, and one I don't think a townie would make. Can you see how this could appear to be WIFOM set out by scum? Do you agree scum knowing would defeat the purpose of a Bomb?

But then you want to have a meltdown over Athene asking a game mechanic question, that makes more sense than yours? Scum could have a bomb that kills one of the lynchers. Thus they'd have knowledge, and that would explain why feck and mantis hopped on my bandwagon yesterday very early and conspicuously.

You're being way more aggro than I've seen before.

[irretating]

Gonzo your second last post on the other thread is weird. You think that adenosine being followy of oblivion, given her flip, is townish. How on earth do you come up with conclusion, when the only way adenosine could have know oblivion was town is if adenosine is in fact scum? You are the one with the flakey game. Self voting as mayor is just as weird. And you only choose to make judgements of the 'obvious' people and don't comment on Athene, for eg, or mantis.

vote gonzo

Simmer a bit. I said it was townish in that he could have been following Ob soley do to the fact that he trusted her and I have no evidence to reason it otherwise. You see - scum don't often take orders from townies or follow their suggestions so quickly, but it was objectively scummy to last-minute vote under the circumstance of him saving another scum (say, Zig) by voting diva. It isn't that complicated.

Not true. You must know that.

[Adenosine]

I've not listed off all the inactive players as people I find suspicious, no, but why would I? I had substancial posts to respond to. Am also quite sure I'm not the only one not to make a case of inactive players, so you sound extra stupid to accuse me for it.

Wasn't this you on day one?

First, Dl, I would like to point out that your FOSes are mostly against the people who've posted the most. Don't forget there are people who've yet to participate much.

So I don't list the inactive players and it's suspicious, you don't do it and it's okay?

Also Feck wanted you to be Mayor, because:

morning all vote Gonzo too good a player to lynch and A sneaky scum player . I don't know about the Ire-Diva thing yet

[Gonzo]

no way. it was the way she said it - I know her. I had no clue that she was a bomb when I unvoted - there's no way I would know that.

just to further explain that, because I realize it might be unclear. She sounded alarmed, which alarmed me enough to unvote her. Though, I didn't know she was a bomb.

Of course she was alarmed, she was about to get lynched. And she didn't know me so she was fine with me blowing up. But you, Mantis, you saw something else. I think Athene is onto something. I think the scum know there are bombs.

I also think you're being a dick Gonzo. You're bludgeoning Athene over your misunderstanding of her statement.

I was trying to be clear without being explicit of how I thought Mantis would answer. I'm trying to be useful and ask questions and clear up misunderstandings. I'm a townie, god damn it, I want the town to succeed.

If Mantis said 1) Yes, I had additional information. That would have meant one of two things: she is a Town Bomb or she's on the scum team. Answering 'Yes' would have explained WHY Mantis picked up on Diva the way she had.

If Mantis said 2) No, I had no additional ionformation as she has, it means there is no real admission by Mantis that she had reason to pick up on the supposed 'hint' dropped by Diva that she was a 'Bomb'. Instead Mantis says it was 'because I know her well', which doesn't seem cover her saying she picked up on a hint.

So Mantis is vanilla town and took Diva for her word (for know apparent reason) or she is scum and know there are Town Bombs throughout the game - having to figure out who they are.

This looks bad for Mantis. FOS

I think it's somewhat damning that Mantis seemed clued in that Diva had something threatening to hide and has no additional info to back that reaction. Weighed against the brunt of Mantis' play, I'd say voting for her is the most logical decision.

[Gonzo]

Does anyone know if a Town Bomb can kill a Seer?

You're happy to ask a game mechanics question ...

You mean one concerning the mnost important aspect of the game? Whether or not the town has specials? I think this is a game mechanic we all need to be aware of, and one that would be known by anyone familiar with Town Bombs. I, for one, am not.

The reason I asked was because if Mantis said she did have additional info, she would have to be a Town special if not scum. Then I would have suggested the Seer to view her to make it known if she was lying. Obviously, though, if a Town Bomb usually explodes when targetted (by specials of either alignment) it would kill the Seer and be of no use to us. Now I see it's unnecessary to consider at all as Mantis seems to have claimed to have no info to back her reaction to Diva.

I'm wondering if scum knew in advance about some town members being bombs.

That would entirely defreat the purpose of having Town Bombs. That a weird statement, Athene, and one I don't think a townie would make. Can you see how this could appear to be WIFOM set out by scum? Do you agree scum knowing would defeat the purpose of a Bomb?

But then you want to have a meltdown over Athene asking a game mechanic question, that makes more sense than yours? Scum could have a bomb that kills one of the lynchers. Thus they'd have knowledge, and that would explain why feck and mantis hopped on my bandwagon yesterday very early and conspicuously.

You're being way more aggro than I've seen before.[/quote]

What warrant's such a baseless hypothetical, Irre? We have no proof of it, so why are you suggesting that's the case?

We don't even have evidence that the scum knew there were Bombs.

[Gonzo]

You're being way more aggro than I've seen before.

Won't somebody think of the children?

[Gonzo]

Gonzo your second last post on the other thread is weird. You think that adenosine being followy of oblivion, given her flip, is townish. How on earth do you come up with conclusion, when the only way adenosine could have know oblivion was town is if adenosine is in fact scum? You are the one with the flakey game. Self voting as mayor is just as weird. And you only choose to make judgements of the 'obvious' people and don't comment on Athene, for eg, or mantis.

vote gonzo

Simmer a bit. I said it was townish in that he could have been following Ob soley do to the fact that he trusted her and I have no evidence to reason it otherwise. You see - scum don't often take orders from townies or follow their suggestions so quickly, but it was objectively scummy to last-minute vote under the circumstance of him saving another scum (say, Zig) by voting diva. It isn't that complicated.

Not true. You must know that.

Not on the spur of the moment, the way Adenosine had. Those last 5 minutes or so contained a lot.

[Gonzo]

I've not listed off all the inactive players as people I find suspicious, no, but why would I? I had substancial posts to respond to. Am also quite sure I'm not the only one not to make a case of inactive players, so you sound extra stupid to accuse me for it.

Wasn't this you on day one?

First, Dl, I would like to point out that your FOSes are mostly against the people who've posted the most. Don't forget there are people who've yet to participate much.

So I don't list the inactive players and it's suspicious, you don't do it and it's okay?

I didn't say it was suspicious, Dl. I pointed it out to you. So, read that over.

[Gonzo]

Vote Mantis

[Gonzo]

Vote Athene

[Adenosine]

Scum do all sorts of things. As we know, diva was town so it's conceivable that I am scum and wanted a town lynch. I'm not, but it isn't outside the realms of possibility. There are no set ways scum play the game, you know that G.

[Adenosine]

I've not listed off all the inactive players as people I find suspicious, no, but why would I? I had substancial posts to respond to. Am also quite sure I'm not the only one not to make a case of inactive players, so you sound extra stupid to accuse me for it.

Wasn't this you on day one?

First, Dl, I would like to point out that your FOSes are mostly against the people who've posted the most. Don't forget there are people who've yet to participate much.

So I don't list the inactive players and it's suspicious, you don't do it and it's okay?

I didn't say it was suspicious, Dl. I pointed it out to you. So, read that over.

In this game, built on paranoia, what's the difference?

[Gonzo]

I was just giving you the benefit of the doubt, Dl. Something I try to stick to as a townie. There are instance of scum fast voting at the end. If you remember, I also suggested that as possible. I gave both sides of the story and said you could have also been voting Diva to save Zigmen or something along those lines.

[Gonzo]

I've not listed off all the inactive players as people I find suspicious, no, but why would I? I had substancial posts to respond to. Am also quite sure I'm not the only one not to make a case of inactive players, so you sound extra stupid to accuse me for it.

Wasn't this you on day one?

First, Dl, I would like to point out that your FOSes are mostly against the people who've posted the most. Don't forget there are people who've yet to participate much.

So I don't list the inactive players and it's suspicious, you don't do it and it's okay?

I didn't say it was suspicious, Dl. I pointed it out to you. So, read that over.

In this game, built on paranoia, what's the difference?

Because pointing out abehavior is different from call a behavior scummy. In this case, I thought it would help YOU to observe that post and YOUR FOSes. As with bringing attention to anything in the game, it benefits all players in some way, because it's a fact. Facts are important in Mafia. I'd rather rely on them than hypotheticals.