Republicans to cut $4,000,000,000,000 over 10 years

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Post by Seth » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:30 am

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Exactly correct, but the point here is that it's VOLUNTARY shared risk. You get to pick which risk pool you enter, and you can choose not to enter any risk pool if you like.
You obviously have some choice in the risks to your health but most of them are out of your control.


So what? The risk of being hit by a car and injured is out of my control. What does that have to do with anything? If I want to accept the risk of being hit by a car and not having medical insurance, that's my right, just as it's my right to refuse to pay for medical insurance even if I get cancer. And it's particularly and expressly my right not to pay for YOUR health care, or anyone elses.
Most of these genetic risks aren't understood but one day they probably will be. When that happens health insurance anywhere will be a dead industry, if you are 'low' risk people won't bother getting insurance for it, if you are high risk you won't be able to afford it
Life's a bitch and then you die. So what? Who cares? Big deal. Death gets us all in the end. Please don't demand that I sacrifice MY money merely to give YOU the opportunity to live a few months longer. That's YOUR problem, not mine.
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Re: Republicans to cut $4,000,000,000,000 over 10 years

Post by MrJonno » Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:34 am

Life's a bitch and then you die. So what? Who cares? Big deal. Death gets us all in the end. Please don't demand that I sacrifice MY money merely to give YOU the opportunity to live a few months longer. That's YOUR problem, not mine.
A hungry sick person on your doorstep is your problem as much as it is theirs, if you don't sacrifice your money to ensure they get looked after they are likely to sacrifice you
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MrJonno wrote:
Life's a bitch and then you die. So what? Who cares? Big deal. Death gets us all in the end. Please don't demand that I sacrifice MY money merely to give YOU the opportunity to live a few months longer. That's YOUR problem, not mine.
A hungry sick person on your doorstep is your problem as much as it is theirs, if you don't sacrifice your money to ensure they get looked after they are likely to sacrifice you
If a hungry, sick person comes to my doorstep and asks for help, if I'm able, I'll help. But if they come to my door demanding my property or my service by force, I'll use force against them in response. That's why I have, and exercise, a right to keep and bear arms.
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Post by MrJonno » Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:31 pm

If a hungry, sick person comes to my doorstep and asks for help, if I'm able, I'll help. But if they come to my door demanding my property or my service by force, I'll use force against them in response. That's why I have, and exercise, a right to keep and bear arms.
Social structure is pyramid the more successful you are the more outnumbered you are by people less successful, piss the people of at the bottom enough and you get revolution and those on the top are going to be seriously trouble
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Re: Republicans to cut $4,000,000,000,000 over 10 years

Post by .Morticia. » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:02 pm

Seth wrote:
MrJonno wrote:
Life's a bitch and then you die. So what? Who cares? Big deal. Death gets us all in the end. Please don't demand that I sacrifice MY money merely to give YOU the opportunity to live a few months longer. That's YOUR problem, not mine.
A hungry sick person on your doorstep is your problem as much as it is theirs, if you don't sacrifice your money to ensure they get looked after they are likely to sacrifice you
If a hungry, sick person comes to my doorstep and asks for help, if I'm able, I'll help. But if they come to my door demanding my property or my service by force, I'll use force against them in response. That's why I have, and exercise, a right to keep and bear arms.
You do make such a fuss over nothing

I have security and don't open the door. Problem solved.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:32 am

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Seth wrote:
MrJonno wrote:
Life's a bitch and then you die. So what? Who cares? Big deal. Death gets us all in the end. Please don't demand that I sacrifice MY money merely to give YOU the opportunity to live a few months longer. That's YOUR problem, not mine.
A hungry sick person on your doorstep is your problem as much as it is theirs, if you don't sacrifice your money to ensure they get looked after they are likely to sacrifice you
If a hungry, sick person comes to my doorstep and asks for help, if I'm able, I'll help. But if they come to my door demanding my property or my service by force, I'll use force against them in response. That's why I have, and exercise, a right to keep and bear arms.
You do make such a fuss over nothing

I have security and don't open the door. Problem solved.
You're selfish. You should give freely of what you have, to the less fortunate. By what right do you have more, and they less? And, you must be among the fortunate ones who "have security." Most people can't afford "security." We ought to have a "national home security program" so that everyone has a government issue security system to protect their dwelling.

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Post by egbert » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:18 pm

Seth wrote:If a hungry, sick person comes to my doorstep and asks for help, if I'm able, I'll help. But if they come to my door demanding my property or my service by force, I'll use force against them in response. That's why I have, and exercise, a right to keep and bear arms.
So you keep arms to shoot hungry, sick people. How nice of you.

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Post by egbert » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:24 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote: We ought to have a "national home security program" so that everyone has a government issue security system to protect their dwelling.
We do already. It's called the Police, paid for by the taxes of the "dependent class", aka "the working class". Of course, we know whose side the Police are on, protecting the interests of the "wealth builder class", you know, the folks with the offshore/Swiss accounts and the tax loopholes so they don't have to pay their share....

Yawn. Your lies are getting boring :bored:
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:46 pm

egbert wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote: We ought to have a "national home security program" so that everyone has a government issue security system to protect their dwelling.
We do already. It's called the Police, paid for by the taxes of the "dependent class", aka "the working class". Of course, we know whose side the Police are on, protecting the interests of the "wealth builder class", you know, the folks with the offshore/Swiss accounts and the tax loopholes so they don't have to pay their share....

Yawn. Your lies are getting boring :bored:
Stop being so selfish. I'm just advocating that instead of relying on the evil Poh-leece that each person should get a home security system. Should only the wealthy have ADT or Brinks Home Security?

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Post by Seth » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:23 pm

MrJonno wrote:
If a hungry, sick person comes to my doorstep and asks for help, if I'm able, I'll help. But if they come to my door demanding my property or my service by force, I'll use force against them in response. That's why I have, and exercise, a right to keep and bear arms.
Social structure is pyramid the more successful you are the more outnumbered you are by people less successful, piss the people of at the bottom enough and you get revolution and those on the top are going to be seriously trouble
Again, that's why I arm myself and my family against the ravening hordes of dependent-class drones who want something for nothing.
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Post by Seth » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:24 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
.Morticia. wrote:
Seth wrote:
MrJonno wrote:
Life's a bitch and then you die. So what? Who cares? Big deal. Death gets us all in the end. Please don't demand that I sacrifice MY money merely to give YOU the opportunity to live a few months longer. That's YOUR problem, not mine.
A hungry sick person on your doorstep is your problem as much as it is theirs, if you don't sacrifice your money to ensure they get looked after they are likely to sacrifice you
If a hungry, sick person comes to my doorstep and asks for help, if I'm able, I'll help. But if they come to my door demanding my property or my service by force, I'll use force against them in response. That's why I have, and exercise, a right to keep and bear arms.
You do make such a fuss over nothing

I have security and don't open the door. Problem solved.
You're selfish. You should give freely of what you have, to the less fortunate. By what right do you have more, and they less? And, you must be among the fortunate ones who "have security." Most people can't afford "security." We ought to have a "national home security program" so that everyone has a government issue security system to protect their dwelling.
Not a very good Marxist, is she? Such selfish counterrevolutionary behavior is just cause to purge her I believe.
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Post by Seth » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:27 pm

egbert wrote:
Seth wrote:If a hungry, sick person comes to my doorstep and asks for help, if I'm able, I'll help. But if they come to my door demanding my property or my service by force, I'll use force against them in response. That's why I have, and exercise, a right to keep and bear arms.
So you keep arms to shoot hungry, sick people. How nice of you.
Nice is as nice does. You be nice to me, and ask nicely, and I'll be nice to you. You come at me to take what is mine by force, and I will respond with force, regardless of your socioeconomic or health conditions.

And you're damned right I keep arms to defend myself and my family, and my society against ravening hordes of hungry dependent-class revolutionaries who don't want to work for a living but would rather steal what they want from the rest of us. Such uncivilized behavior deserves nothing less.
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"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth

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Post by Seth » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:37 pm

egbert wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote: We ought to have a "national home security program" so that everyone has a government issue security system to protect their dwelling.
We do already. It's called the Police, paid for by the taxes of the "dependent class", aka "the working class". Of course, we know whose side the Police are on, protecting the interests of the "wealth builder class", you know, the folks with the offshore/Swiss accounts and the tax loopholes so they don't have to pay their share....

Yawn. Your lies are getting boring :bored:
You mean the police NOT paid for by the not-paid taxes of the dependent class bottom 50 percent of our society who pay nothing in taxes? You mean the police, 40 percent of the expenses of whom are paid for by the top 1 percent of taxpayers, the "wealth builder" class you revile, and 97 percent of whom are paid for by the top 50 percent of taxpayers, the actual "working class" not the "dependent class?" Those police?

Here's a clue for you: "The police are the people, and the people are the police, the police being only persons who are paid to give full-time attention to the duties incumbent upon all citizens in the interests of community safety and existence." Sir Robert Peel, founder of the London Metropolitan Police, the model for modern law enforcement.

Talk about boring lies, yours are enough to put anyone into a persistent vegetative state.
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Post by MrJonno » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:14 pm

Here's a clue for you: "The police are the people, and the people are the police, the police being only persons who are paid to give full-time attention to the duties incumbent upon all citizens in the interests of community safety and existence." Sir Robert Peel, founder of the London Metropolitan Police, the model for modern law enforcement.
The public have a responsbility to aid the police by supplying information and generally cooperating but it absolutely not the their role to uphold the law that is what the police are paid to do. There are volunteer police roles in the UK where you can be a policeman twice a month or so (no idea is that happens in the US).
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Post by egbert » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:30 pm

Seth wrote: Nice is as nice does. You be nice to me, and ask nicely, and I'll be nice to you. You come at me to take what is mine by force, and I will respond with force, regardless of your socioeconomic or health conditions.

And you're damned right I keep arms to defend myself and my family, and my society against ravening hordes of hungry dependent-class revolutionaries who don't want to work for a living but would rather steal what they want from the rest of us. Such uncivilized behavior deserves nothing less.
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