"Gay Caveman" Found in Czech Republic

[Bella Fortuna]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... found.html

06 Apr 2011

The male body – said to date back to between 2900-2500BC – was discovered buried in a way normally reserved only for women of the Corded Ware culture in the Copper Age.

The skeleton was found in a Prague suburb in the Czech Republic with its head pointing eastwards and surrounded by domestic jugs, rituals only previously seen in female graves.

"From history and ethnology, we know that people from this period took funeral rites very seriously so it is highly unlikely that this positioning was a mistake," said lead archaeologist Kamila Remisova Vesinova.

"Far more likely is that he was a man with a different sexual orientation, homosexual or transsexual," she added.

According to Corded Ware culture which began in the late Stone Age and culminated in the Bronze Age, men were traditionally buried lying on their right side with their heads pointing towards the west, and women on their left sides with their heads pointing towards the east. Both sexes would be put into a crouching position.

The men would be buried alongside weapons, hammers and flint knives as well as several portions of food and drink to accompany them to the other side.

Women would be buried with necklaces made from teeth, pets, and copper earrings, as well as jugs and an egg-shaped pot placed near the feet.

"What we see here doesn't add up to traditional Corded Ware cultural norms. The grave in Terronska Street in Prague 6 is interred on its left side with the head facing the West. An oval, egg-shaped container usually associated with female burials was also found at the feet of the skeleton. None of the objects that usually accompany male burials  such as weapons, stone battle axes and flint knives  were found in the grave.

"We believe this is one of the earliest cases of what could be described as a 'transsexual' or 'third gender grave' in the Czech Republic," archaeologist Katerina Semradova told a press conference on Tuesday.

She said that archeologists had uncovered an earlier case dating from the Mesolithic period where a female warrior was buried as a man.

She added that Siberian shamans, or latter-day witch doctors, were also buried in this way but with richer funeral accessories to appropriate to their elevated position in society.

"But this later discovery was neither of those, leading us to believe the man was probably homosexual or transsexual," Semeradova said.

The Corded Ware culture takes its name from the frequent use of decorative cord impressions found its pots and covered much of North, Central and Eastern Europe.

It is also known as a single-grave and battleaxe culture due to separate burials and the Mena s habit of being buried with stone axes.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"BOHICA", in caveman grunts.

[Twoflower]

That is pretty common in a lot cultures.

[egbert]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... found.html

The skeleton was found in a Prague suburb in the Czech Republic with its head pointing eastwards

According to Corded Ware culture which began in the late Stone Age and culminated in the Bronze Age, men were traditionally buried lying on their right side with their heads pointing towards the west, and women on their left sides with their heads pointing towards the east.

So the Muslim "facing Mecca" was just another plagiarism!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... found.html

The skeleton was found in a Prague suburb in the Czech Republic with its head pointing eastwards

According to Corded Ware culture which began in the late Stone Age and culminated in the Bronze Age, men were traditionally buried lying on their right side with their heads pointing towards the west, and women on their left sides with their heads pointing towards the east.

So the Muslim "facing Mecca" was just another plagiarism!

I read somewhere that Mohammed used to pray toward Jerusalem until he had a spat with someone there and just changed the direction he was facing. Don't know if that's true or not, however, single sources are reliable without support.

[Hermit]

Homosexual caveman, huh? The skeleton's gender has not been established with any appreciable amount of certainty, and the buried person lived a bit too late to be a "caveman". Typically tabloid article.

[sandinista]

sounds like a lot of archeologists, lots of speculation and not much more.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Homosexual caveman, huh? The skeleton's gender has not been established with any appreciable amount of certainty, and the buried person lived a bit too late to be a "caveman". Typically tabloid article.

They didn't find the pelvis?

[Hermit]

Homosexual caveman, huh? The skeleton's gender has not been established with any appreciable amount of certainty, and the buried person lived a bit too late to be a "caveman". Typically tabloid article.

They didn't find the pelvis?

You didn't read the article?

Hawks said the third-gender claims are difficult to evaluate without a formal archaeological description.

"I haven't seen any evidence that really convinces me that the skeleton is male," he said. "It could be, but the photo is not convincing on that point, and I have not seen any claim of DNA testing."

It's tough to assign a sex to a skeleton with certainty, Dobson said. Archaeologists and anthropologists usually rely on bone measurements, particularly the size and shape of the pelvis. But these estimates aren't exact, Dobson said.

"There have been cases in the past where a gender was assigned and we have gone back to look and assigned the opposite gender," he said.

[Sisifo]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... found.html

The skeleton was found in a Prague suburb in the Czech Republic with its head pointing eastwards

According to Corded Ware culture which began in the late Stone Age and culminated in the Bronze Age, men were traditionally buried lying on their right side with their heads pointing towards the west, and women on their left sides with their heads pointing towards the east.

So the Muslim "facing Mecca" was just another plagiarism!

I read somewhere that Mohammed used to pray toward Jerusalem until he had a spat with someone there and just changed the direction he was facing. Don't know if that's true or not, however, single sources are reliable without support.

Yes, muslims started praying facing Jerusalem (the Themple Mount, actually) but one day Mohammed changed the direction in the middle of the praying. There has been a lot of speculation about the politics of it (it was related to the ongoing circumstances of the relationships with the jews at the time), also with a lot of fabulation and myth. In any case, the struggle of the muslims to find the Kiblah from any point in the world, it is a very interesting history of ingenuity on navigation devices.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Homosexual caveman, huh? The skeleton's gender has not been established with any appreciable amount of certainty, and the buried person lived a bit too late to be a "caveman". Typically tabloid article.

They didn't find the pelvis?

You didn't read the article?

Hawks said the third-gender claims are difficult to evaluate without a formal archaeological description.

"I haven't seen any evidence that really convinces me that the skeleton is male," he said. "It could be, but the photo is not convincing on that point, and I have not seen any claim of DNA testing."

It's tough to assign a sex to a skeleton with certainty, Dobson said. Archaeologists and anthropologists usually rely on bone measurements, particularly the size and shape of the pelvis. But these estimates aren't exact, Dobson said.

"There have been cases in the past where a gender was assigned and we have gone back to look and assigned the opposite gender," he said.

That was a bit snarky. The male pelvis is distinctly different from the female.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Yes, muslims started praying facing Jerusalem (the Themple Mount, actually) but one day Mohammed changed the direction in the middle of the praying. There has been a lot of speculation about the politics of it (it was related to the ongoing circumstances of the relationships with the jews at the time), also with a lot of fabulation and myth. In any case, the struggle of the muslims to find the Kiblah from any point in the world, it is a very interesting history of ingenuity on navigation devices.

When the Chinese sent their great fleet of exploration out to sail the world they had an Arab for a navigator.