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Post by egbert » Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:56 pm

Seth wrote:You think it's an oligarchy now, just wait till George Soros and his ilk take over control.
BUT, George Soros is one of those SUPER RICH CAPITALISTS, you know, those HARD WORKING CREATORS OF WEALTH, whom the leftie socialist leeches try to live off for free, and whom you so admire and defend!
And here you are badmouthing poor George! Such doublespeak! :funny:
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I suspect that nowadays "creating wealth" involves convincing poor saps that you have it a lot more than actually producing anything vaguely resembling a valuable, or even useful, commodity
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Svartalf wrote:I suspect that nowadays "creating wealth" involves convincing poor saps that you have it a lot more than actually producing anything vaguely resembling a valuable, or even useful, commodity
Seth claims that filling your offshore accounts on the backs of the hoi polloi is "creating wealth" AND entitles the wealth holder to tax exemption for his creativeness. :ab:
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Post by .Morticia. » Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:20 pm

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Crumple wrote:They'll have to close the prisons. Can't wait to see the result? :read: :hehe: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:

they'll close schools and hospitals before they close a prison
Which is a shame since much more public money is wasted in the prison industrial complex than in medicine or education... I'm waiting for a poor vs rich civil war.

what you call a waste is a better profit margin to others

with the added bonus of being part of the police state :read:
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egbert wrote:
Svartalf wrote:I suspect that nowadays "creating wealth" involves convincing poor saps that you have it a lot more than actually producing anything vaguely resembling a valuable, or even useful, commodity
Seth claims that filling your offshore accounts on the backs of the hoi polloi is "creating wealth" AND entitles the wealth holder to tax exemption for his creativeness. :ab:
If I could enrich myself on the backs of hoi polloi, I'd certainly believe I've created wealth for myself, and if I went with it to the Caymans, that would be to protect it from the taxman than for just a tropical paradise holiday.
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Crumple wrote:They'll have to close the prisons. Can't wait to see the result? :read: :hehe: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:

they'll close schools and hospitals before they close a prison
Which is a shame since much more public money is wasted in the prison industrial complex than in medicine or education... I'm waiting for a poor vs rich civil war.

what you call a waste is a better profit margin to others

with the added bonus of being part of the police state :read:
making a profit on sending people to prisons who don't really need to be is something I feel should put whoever does it inside supermax...
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Seth wrote: It's perfectly clear if you understand that they are not "democrats," they are Progressives, Marxists and globalists who are perfectly happy to destroy the United States and our current system of government so that they can rebuild it as the utopian Progressive administrative state and but a poor cog in the machinery of a global Progressive administrative state in which all people everywhere are enslaved to the Progressive agenda. It's purely and only about power and control and the ruling elite seizing it on a global scale. They want to run everything, everywhere, without "democratic" interference, and they are intent on driving the United States into ruin because destroying the last bastion of Republicanism and liberty is the only way they can accomplish their goal.
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Svartalf wrote:
.Morticia. wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
.Morticia. wrote:
Crumple wrote:They'll have to close the prisons. Can't wait to see the result? :read: :hehe: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:

they'll close schools and hospitals before they close a prison
Which is a shame since much more public money is wasted in the prison industrial complex than in medicine or education... I'm waiting for a poor vs rich civil war.

what you call a waste is a better profit margin to others

with the added bonus of being part of the police state :read:
making a profit on sending people to prisons who don't really need to be is something I feel should put whoever does it inside supermax...
like what these bastards did

capitalism is grand , aint it :{D
Pennsylvania Judge Convicted in Alleged 'Kids for Cash' Scheme

A former juvenile court judge in Pennsylvania could face more than 10 years in prison after being convicted in what prosecutors called a "kids for cash" scheme.


Prosecutors say former Luzerne County Judge Mark Ciavarella used children as pawns, locking them up unjustly in a plot to get rich. Ciavarella is accused of taking nearly $1 million in kickbacks from owners of private detention centers in exchange for placing juvenile defendants at their facilities, often for minor crimes. Ciavarella claims that the payment he received from a developer of the PA Child Care facility was legal and denies that he ever incarcerated kids for money.

"Absolutely never took a dime to send a kid anywhere," said Ciavarella.

Ciavarella, 61, was found guilty of 12 out of 39 charges on Friday, including racketeering, money laundering and conspiracy, in connection with the nearly $1 million payment from Robert Mericle, the developer of the PA Child Care center. He plans to appeal. Ciavarella was acquitted on charges of bribery and extortion in relation to additional payments from the center's builder and owner.

Families complain of Ciavarella's rapid-fire brand of justice and trials that lasted only minutes with even first-time offenders sent to detention centers.

In one reported case, Ciavarella sentenced a child to two years for joyriding in his mom's car. In another, he sentenced a college-bound high school girl to three months in juvenile detention for creating a website that made fun of her assistant principal. Some of the kids he ordered locked up were as young as 10.

"The numbers of children going into placement in Luzerne County tended to be two to three times higher than in other counties," said Marsha Levick, deputy director of the Juvenile Law Center in Philadelphia.

In October 2009, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court dismissed 4,000 juvenile delinquency cases Ciavarella handled from Jan. 1, 2003 to May 31, 2008. The court said that it "cannot have any confidence that Ciavarella decided any Luzerne County juvenile case fairly and impartially while he labored under the specter of his self-interested dealings with the facilities," and called Ciavarella's actions a "travesty of juvenile justice."



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egbert wrote:
Seth wrote:You think it's an oligarchy now, just wait till George Soros and his ilk take over control.
BUT, George Soros is one of those SUPER RICH CAPITALISTS, you know, those HARD WORKING CREATORS OF WEALTH, whom the leftie socialist leeches try to live off for free, and whom you so admire and defend!
And here you are badmouthing poor George! Such doublespeak! :funny:
Indeed. Nobody said that hard-working capitalists are incapable of wrongdoing. In fact I've said many times that government regulation intended to prevent the initiation of force or fraud are perfectly legitimate and necessary controls on the free markets.

But Soros has far more in mind than merely making money. He's engaged in sedition and treason, and should be arrested, tried and hung for it.
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Post by .Morticia. » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:31 pm

Seth wrote:
egbert wrote:
Seth wrote:You think it's an oligarchy now, just wait till George Soros and his ilk take over control.
BUT, George Soros is one of those SUPER RICH CAPITALISTS, you know, those HARD WORKING CREATORS OF WEALTH, whom the leftie socialist leeches try to live off for free, and whom you so admire and defend!
And here you are badmouthing poor George! Such doublespeak! :funny:
Indeed. Nobody said that hard-working capitalists are incapable of wrongdoing. In fact I've said many times that government regulation intended to prevent the initiation of force or fraud are perfectly legitimate and necessary controls on the free markets.

But Soros has far more in mind than merely making money. He's engaged in sedition and treason, and should be arrested, tried and hung for it.

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Seth wrote:Nobody has a "right" to health care because that implies that other people may be enslaved to the service of the individual to provide it to them at someone else's expense.
You hear that? If you're an eight year old orphan, and you contract leukemia, tough shit! Can't pay for treatment - die, bitch, die! Whattya think this this is - the hooman race or sumthin? Empathy? What the Feck is that?
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Post by .Morticia. » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:32 pm

egbert wrote:
Seth wrote:Nobody has a "right" to health care because that implies that other people may be enslaved to the service of the individual to provide it to them at someone else's expense.
You hear that? If you're an eight year old orphan, and you contract leukemia, tough shit! Can't pay for treatment - die, bitch, die! Whattya think this this is - the hooman race or sumthin? Empathy? What the Feck is that?

there's a plague

TOO BAD

no vaccination, no quarantine

everyone must die because collective health measures repress the individual
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like what these bastards did

capitalism is grand , aint it :{D
Pennsylvania Judge Convicted in Alleged 'Kids for Cash' Scheme

A former juvenile court judge in Pennsylvania could face more than 10 years in prison after being convicted in what prosecutors called a "kids for cash" scheme.


Prosecutors say former Luzerne County Judge Mark Ciavarella used children as pawns, locking them up unjustly in a plot to get rich. Ciavarella is accused of taking nearly $1 million in kickbacks from owners of private detention centers in exchange for placing juvenile defendants at their facilities, often for minor crimes. Ciavarella claims that the payment he received from a developer of the PA Child Care facility was legal and denies that he ever incarcerated kids for money.

"Absolutely never took a dime to send a kid anywhere," said Ciavarella.

Ciavarella, 61, was found guilty of 12 out of 39 charges on Friday, including racketeering, money laundering and conspiracy, in connection with the nearly $1 million payment from Robert Mericle, the developer of the PA Child Care center. He plans to appeal. Ciavarella was acquitted on charges of bribery and extortion in relation to additional payments from the center's builder and owner.

Families complain of Ciavarella's rapid-fire brand of justice and trials that lasted only minutes with even first-time offenders sent to detention centers.

In one reported case, Ciavarella sentenced a child to two years for joyriding in his mom's car. In another, he sentenced a college-bound high school girl to three months in juvenile detention for creating a website that made fun of her assistant principal. Some of the kids he ordered locked up were as young as 10.
You think that is capitalism?

You think that judge's in communist countries don't engage in graft and racketeering?

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Post by Warren Dew » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:50 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:You think that judge's in communist countries don't engage in graft and racketeering?
Hey, it involves money. I guess some people think anything other than going back to the barter system is "capitalism".

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