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Post by sandinista » Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:43 am

Seth wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
sandinista wrote:
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Fuck the dependent class, I've carried them for too long, so I'm done.
good, something we agree on, fuck the corporate elite.
I agree 100% with Sandinista. End corporate welfare and subsidies, and no more bailouts for Wall Street fraudsters and criminals. Time to stop the talk of "too big to fail." I think anything that is "too big to fail" ought to be broken up via the Sherman and Clayton Acts. And, the smaller bits ought to compete and the ones that fail, fail.
I'm online with that too. But the Sherman and Clayton Acts should be repealed, and NOBODY is "too big to fail." Let them fail, regardless of the consequences.
coito, seth and myself all agree that the people have carried the dependent class aka the corporate class, for too long. Wonder if sereph, jimc and ian would hop on that as well. Hands across the rationalia? We all agree on the legalization of drugs and the end of the drug war as well...AND that all religion is bullshit! Wow. :grouphug: :what?:
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Post by Seth » Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:46 am

sandinista wrote:
Seth wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Seth wrote:
Fuck the dependent class, I've carried them for too long, so I'm done.
good, something we agree on, fuck the corporate elite.
I agree 100% with Sandinista. End corporate welfare and subsidies, and no more bailouts for Wall Street fraudsters and criminals. Time to stop the talk of "too big to fail." I think anything that is "too big to fail" ought to be broken up via the Sherman and Clayton Acts. And, the smaller bits ought to compete and the ones that fail, fail.
I'm online with that too. But the Sherman and Clayton Acts should be repealed, and NOBODY is "too big to fail." Let them fail, regardless of the consequences.
coito, seth and myself all agree that the people have carried the dependent class aka the corporate class, for too long. Wonder if sereph, jimc and ian would hop on that as well. Hands across the rationalia? We all agree on the legalization of drugs and the end of the drug war as well...AND that all religion is bullshit! Wow. :grouphug: :what?:
Yea, except that the dependent class is hardly limited to corporations. The vast majority of the dependent class is made up of delusional liberal, progressive and Marxist drones who are incapable of rational thought.
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Post by charlou » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:00 am

sandinista wrote:coito, seth and myself all agree that the people have carried the dependent class aka the corporate class, for too long. Wonder if sereph, jimc and ian would hop on that as well. Hands across the rationalia? We all agree on the legalization of drugs and the end of the drug war as well...AND that all religion is bullshit! Wow. :grouphug: :what?:
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Post by sandinista » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:02 am

Seth wrote:
Yea, except that the dependent class is hardly limited to corporations. The vast majority of the dependent class is made up of delusional liberal, progressive and Marxist drones who are incapable of rational thought.
actually the vast vast vast majority of the dependent class are the various members of the corporate wealthy elite. Seems like your saying regular working people are the dependent class...really?
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Post by maiforpeace » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:06 am

Seth wrote:
Yea, except that the dependent class is hardly limited to corporations. The vast majority of the dependent class is made up of delusional liberal, progressive and Marxist drones Teabaggers who are incapable of rational thought that want the government to keep it's hands off their Medicare, Social Security and Disability.
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Post by Hermit » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:27 am

sandinista wrote:coito, seth and myself all agree that the people have carried the dependent class aka the corporate class, for too long. Wonder if sereph, jimc and ian would hop on that as well. Hands across the rationalia? We all agree on the legalization of drugs and the end of the drug war as well...AND that all religion is bullshit! Wow. :grouphug: :what?:
End corporate welfare, yes.
Decriminalise drugs, Yes.
Say "no" to religion, yes.
Ban all trolls*, yes.

*Trolls = everyone who disagrees with me.


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Post by maiforpeace » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:29 am

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Post by sandinista » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:41 am

Seraph wrote:
sandinista wrote:coito, seth and myself all agree that the people have carried the dependent class aka the corporate class, for too long. Wonder if sereph, jimc and ian would hop on that as well. Hands across the rationalia? We all agree on the legalization of drugs and the end of the drug war as well...AND that all religion is bullshit! Wow. :grouphug: :what?:
End corporate welfare, yes.
Decriminalise drugs, Yes.
Say "no" to religion, yes.
Ban all trolls*, yes.

*Trolls = everyone who disagrees with me.


Whoops. Have I gone too far?
no :td:
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Post by Ian » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:16 am

sandinista wrote:coito, seth and myself all agree that the people have carried the dependent class aka the corporate class, for too long. Wonder if sereph, jimc and ian would hop on that as well. Hands across the rationalia? We all agree on the legalization of drugs and the end of the drug war as well...AND that all religion is bullshit! Wow. :grouphug: :what?:
Hmmm, lemesee...
*Stop coddling corporations: yep, pretty much.
*Legalizing drugs: partially yes. Legalizing marijuana would be a great start, though I sure as shit don't want to see an across-the-board legalization where PCP and crystal meth are suddenly available at my local Walgreens. But maybe, if weak and relatively harmless stuff like pot were legalized, then some of the much more harmful hard stuff would lose their appeal; fewer people will risk trying to obtain that stuff if they can just go to a store and get some weed safely and legally.
*Religion is bullshit: obviously yes!

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Post by JimC » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:12 am

sandinista wrote:
Seth wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Seth wrote:
Fuck the dependent class, I've carried them for too long, so I'm done.
good, something we agree on, fuck the corporate elite.
I agree 100% with Sandinista. End corporate welfare and subsidies, and no more bailouts for Wall Street fraudsters and criminals. Time to stop the talk of "too big to fail." I think anything that is "too big to fail" ought to be broken up via the Sherman and Clayton Acts. And, the smaller bits ought to compete and the ones that fail, fail.
I'm online with that too. But the Sherman and Clayton Acts should be repealed, and NOBODY is "too big to fail." Let them fail, regardless of the consequences.
coito, seth and myself all agree that the people have carried the dependent class aka the corporate class, for too long. Wonder if sereph, jimc and ian would hop on that as well. Hands across the rationalia? We all agree on the legalization of drugs and the end of the drug war as well...AND that all religion is bullshit! Wow. :grouphug: :what?:
Certainly there are too many breaks given to big corporations, and too much "the government will have to bail us out if we stuff up". Big corporations generally have way too much influence on both the government and the media, since they have the money to buy the spin.

This doesn't mean get rid of big corporations, it means a careful examination of the methods they use to exert undue influence, and careful legislation (enacted by a rational, centre-left government) to rein them in...
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Post by sandinista » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:46 am

JimC wrote:
Certainly there are too many breaks given to big corporations, and too much "the government will have to bail us out if we stuff up". Big corporations generally have way too much influence on both the government and the media, since they have the money to buy the spin.

This doesn't mean get rid of big corporations, it means a careful examination of the methods they use to exert undue influence, and careful legislation (enacted by a rational, centre-left government) to rein them in...
Good luck with that. The governments of neo-liberal type democracies are made up of the same people as the multi nationals. Why would a government hurt it's own interests? Especially now, with global "free trade" if a government is too hard on a corporation it'll pack up and leave to somewhere friendlier. Taking jobs and capital with it.
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JimC wrote:rational, centre-left government
As sandinista said, good luck with that!

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Post by JimC » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:59 am

Warren Dew wrote:
JimC wrote:rational, centre-left government
As sandinista said, good luck with that!
When us centrists are attacked equally from both sides, we know we are on the right track! ;)
sandinista wrote: Especially now, with global "free trade" if a government is too hard on a corporation it'll pack up and leave to somewhere friendlier. Taking jobs and capital with it.
That is a fair point, it is a difficult issue for national governments to deal with.
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Post by Warren Dew » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:21 am

JimC wrote:
sandinista wrote: Especially now, with global "free trade" if a government is too hard on a corporation it'll pack up and leave to somewhere friendlier. Taking jobs and capital with it.
That is a fair point, it is a difficult issue for national governments to deal with.
And that's a good thing, too, as it's the only thing keeping government overregulation in check.

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Post by Svartalf » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:02 am

Feck wrote:The thread title should have been 'Hippy stoned that laws aren't just for other people '
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