160 nukes hidden all over the US?

[Coito ergo sum]

The of calling a man and his bodyguards in a cave an organisation really makes no sense.

Of course, that's not all he was/is.

An organisation has property including buildings, land.

Not necessarily.

It has an hierachy of leadership with internal rules and procedures.

As al Qaeda does.

If you don't have this you arent a different sort of organsatition you simply arent one.

AQ has members, leadership and a hierarchy and has or at least had buildings and property (until it was blown up).

A partially shared ideology yes, an organisation no. Its a bit like drugs you have people making money out of them but there is no World Union of Drug Pushers even through their are individuals and even groups of individuals who sell them

But there are drug pushing organizations - like, the Medellin Drug Cartel was, which had an organization, leadership, hierarchy, assets, goals and undertook actions. Just because not all drug pushers are in the same organization doesn't mean that there aren't any organizations.

[MrJonno]

Take the Catholic church take away all its official property, all its churches, all its bank accounts, all its records of baptisms/membership lists, all its priests and you are basically left with the pope in a house (or cave). Sure some people might respect him they might even do things if he asks them to, they might even do things in his name without asking but guess what the catholic church no longer exists. Thats Al Queda

Islamic terrorism exists, but it has no global organisation, just a moderate number of small groups who are devoted to Islam and thats about it

[Wumbologist]

Dude, AQ exists or at least existed until they brought down too much heat on the name. I doubt they ever tied to surpass what they did on 9/11, but regardless, very few Islamic extremists would want to attract the CIA dollars committed to anyone even remotely associated with them. So they disappeared for the time being, who wouldn't? Doesn't mean they never existed.

No, no, no. Al-Qaeda never existed, Bin Laden was just CGI. That's why all his videos are low-resolution, to cover up the CGI fakeness that would be obvious if you watched it in FULL MEGA HD. You can tell he never existed because he doesn't have BUILDINGS, man!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

[MrJonno]

Jonno, where are your citations and proof of a hoax? I mean, even believers of the magic bullet theory and thermite are sourced better than you.

What hoax?, islamic terrorists calling themselves Al Queda blew up the WTC , they could have called themselves Smurf Liberation Front doesnt mean there is a world wide organisation trying to save Smurfs

[Coito ergo sum]

Take the Catholic church take away all its official property, all its churches, all its bank accounts, all its records of baptisms/membership lists, all its priests and you are basically left with the pope in a house (or cave). Sure some people might respect him they might even do things if he asks them to, they might even do things in his name without asking but guess what the catholic church no longer exists. Thats Al Queda

Islamic terrorism exists, but it has no global organisation, just a moderate number of small groups who are devoted to Islam and thats about it

Those aren't the facts. Al Qaeta is an organization with money and backing, leadership, a hierarchy and goals and it is a global organization.

Moreover, you have now admitted that it does, in fact, exists. You don't think it's a big deal, but you at least admit it exists. Therefore, you have conceded the debate. Now we're on to the next issue: Now that we all agree it exists - how big is it, and what is its nature?

[Wumbologist]

Take the Catholic church take away all its official property, all its churches, all its bank accounts, all its records of baptisms/membership lists, all its priests and you are basically left with the pope in a house (or cave). Sure some people might respect him they might even do things if he asks them to, they might even do things in his name without asking but guess what the catholic church no longer exists. Thats Al Queda

Islamic terrorism exists, but it has no global organisation, just a moderate number of small groups who are devoted to Islam and thats about it

Those aren't the facts. Al Qaeta is an organization with money and backing, leadership, a hierarchy and goals and it is a global organization.

They didn't get their Organization Permit from town hall, they're not an organization. Duh.

[Elessarina]

152 of them are in Zilla's yard!

I lost 8?

I just thoguht you'd used them..

[PsychoSerenity]

This doesn't really belong here, but meh - is an awesome and scary video.

[MrJonno]

Moreover, you have now admitted that it does, in fact, exists. You don't think it's a big deal, but you at least admit it exists. Therefore, you have conceded the debate. Now we're on to the next issue: Now that we all agree it exists - how big is it, and what is its nature?

Al Queda is generally considered to be an international terror organisation, ie a Jame Bond type Spectre by that definition it simply does not exist. There is no one sitting around a table plotting world domination, no one moving units around a board. Just small groups of seperate with poltiical and religious hatred of the west.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Jonno, where are your citations and proof of a hoax? I mean, even believers of the magic bullet theory and thermite are sourced better than you.

What hoax?, islamic terrorists calling themselves Al Queda blew up the WTC , they could have called themselves Smurf Liberation Front doesnt mean there is a world wide organisation trying to save Smurfs

Ah, fast shuffle. "This is no forum for bluffing."

[Coito ergo sum]

Moreover, you have now admitted that it does, in fact, exists. You don't think it's a big deal, but you at least admit it exists. Therefore, you have conceded the debate. Now we're on to the next issue: Now that we all agree it exists - how big is it, and what is its nature?

Al Queda is generally considered to be an international terror organisation, ie a Jame Bond type Spectre by that definition it simply does not exist. There is no one sitting around a table plotting world domination, no one moving units around a board. Just small groups of seperate with poltiical and religious hatred of the west.

An international terrorist organization is a terrorist organization that acts internationally. Al Qaeta has backed attacks in multiple nations, and has had bases and members operating in multiple nations. It is, therefore, an international terrorist organization.

There are, in fact, people sitting around plotting things - Osama bin Laden, for one, and there are/were others. Some are dead now.

It exists.

[Clinton Huxley]

I read an analysis of AQ by some journalist or other and he likened AQ to a franchise operation.

[MrJonno]

An international terrorist organization is a terrorist organization that acts internationally. Al Qaeda has backed attacks in multiple nations, and has had bases and members operating in multiple nations. It is, therefore, an international terrorist organization.

Attacks have cost from 100's to a few 1000 £/$ what exact funding do you needs?