Obama’s hidden agenda for the Libyan war
Obama’s hidden agenda for the Libyan war
Obama’s unconstitutional war on Libya is a test of Progressive global governance and subornation of the Constitution.
By Seth Richardson
President Obama gave a stirring patriotic and humanitarian speech to the nation on Monday night. The problem is that he gave it to the wrong audience and he gave it far too late. It’s a speech he should have given before Congress, as a part of a constitutionally-mandated process by which this nation goes to war. But he didn’t, he ignored Congress and the Constitution and instead consulted with the United Nations, NATO, and astonishingly, the Arab League.
Why did he abandon the Constitution and illegally levy war on Libya, which was no threat to the United States? Because he’s a Progressive and a Marxist, and to him the Constitution is just so much toilet paper with which he wipes himself. Sure, he pushed all the appropriate emotional buttons, propagandistically invoking genocide and evil and cynically pandering to all the best aspects and instincts of American character and our propensity to come to the rescue of oppressed people around the world.
The problem is that launching more than a hundred cruise missiles, destroying tanks and armored vehicles from the air, and sending soldiers into Libya to mark targets is not a humanitarian act by any sane definition. It’s an act of war, and only the Congress can declare war.
His defiance of Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, which grants Congress the sole and plenary power to declare war, was deliberate and calculated. Make no mistake, Obama is a constitutional scholar and knew exactly what he was doing. It was a test of the tenor of the public, a probing of the will of the People to accept without comment or objection the plenary exercise of executive power under the guidance of and subject to the approval of global government under circumstances where a plausible argument of necessity and humanitarian concern could be made.
It was a classic exercise of the Rahm Emmanuel maxim “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.” After encouraging the youth of the Middle East to rise up in rebellion against brutal dictators and helping to set the Middle East aflame with his rhetoric and his sub-rosa machinations to foment unrest, Obama seized the golden opportunity of open insurrection in Libya to turn on our former “friend,” Moammar Gaddaffi, dictator of Libya, for whom Obama is seeking $1.5 million in “humanitarian” aid in his latest budget.
Why would Obama turn on Gaddafi and support an unknown group of insurrectionists who may end up being far worse for both Libya and the United States if they succeed in deposing Gaddafi? Gaddafi’s son, Saif al-Islam, excoriated Obama for the unproved attack and U.S. support of Libyan rebels saying, “Believe me, one day you will wake up and you made a big mistake with supporting these people.” So again, why would Obama risk censure and impeachment by knowingly violating the Constitution and declaring war on Libya?
Because his goal is not to liberate Libya, it’s to test the resolve of the the Congress and the People to see if we have abandoned our fundamental principles and the rule of law. What Obama is hoping is that the Congress has finally become impotent and irrelevant and will not dare to oppose him or repudiate his high crimes, and he believes that the time is right to advance his “fundamental transformation” of the United States into a vassal state of One World Government under the aegis of the United Nations and World Socialism.
This test of public sentiment towards unitary Progressive executive action and resort to international authority to make war rather than obedience to the Constitution is carefully and insidiously intended to strike another very serious blow against the sovereignty of the United States and our foundational documents and laws. Obama believes that the public will blithely accept his platitudes and humanitarian zeal as sufficient justification to excuse his outright, blatant, deliberate, knowing and treasonous violation of the Constitution and the Separation of Powers Doctrine.
If we buy his propaganda, if we ignore his defiance of the Constitution, he will have achieved what Woodrow Wilson could not with his advocacy for the League of Nations, and he will have set a precedent that even George Bush the Younger, Wilson-loving Progressive that he was, dared not attempt in Iraq. Bush at least sought and received Congressional authorization for the Iraq war. Obama has assumed dictatorial executive power by committing an unprovoked and unauthorized act of war against Libya, and doing so in a manner that proves his disdain for Congress and the Constitution, and his fawning obedience to the global power elite and the U.N.
Obama has admitted that he decided to attack Libya more than two weeks ago, while he was in Washington and while the Congress was in session, and while he could have presented the arguments that he presented to us tonight to the Congress for their debate and approval or rejection. Instead, he deliberately waited until Congress was not in session, and he was in South America, precisely so that he could claim urgency and the unavailability of Congress as his excuse for taking unilateral action to levy war on Libya. His consultation with the United Nations and NATO rings hollow as well, since neither organization has any power or control over the United States, much less any constitutional authority to authorize the President of the United States to levy war on a nation that is not a direct or even credible threat to the United States.
His platitudes and excuses after the fact simply do not excuse his defiance of the law and the Constitution. Nor should we allow him to get away with this arrogation of power. If we do, then the Constitution is indeed nothing but a piece of paper that might as well be used to wipe Obama’s rear, and we might as well acknowledge that the United States is no longer a sovereign power and a nation of laws, not men.
We, the People must flood our representatives in Congress with letters and phone calls demanding two things: First, that the Congress immediately defund the unprovoked warlike actions of our military in Libya, and second we must call for impeachment and removal of the President, who has finally violated the Constitution in a way that makes it imperative that we repudiate his “fundamental transformation” of our nation into a vassal of a one-world government.
© 2011 Altnews
By Seth Richardson
President Obama gave a stirring patriotic and humanitarian speech to the nation on Monday night. The problem is that he gave it to the wrong audience and he gave it far too late. It’s a speech he should have given before Congress, as a part of a constitutionally-mandated process by which this nation goes to war. But he didn’t, he ignored Congress and the Constitution and instead consulted with the United Nations, NATO, and astonishingly, the Arab League.
Why did he abandon the Constitution and illegally levy war on Libya, which was no threat to the United States? Because he’s a Progressive and a Marxist, and to him the Constitution is just so much toilet paper with which he wipes himself. Sure, he pushed all the appropriate emotional buttons, propagandistically invoking genocide and evil and cynically pandering to all the best aspects and instincts of American character and our propensity to come to the rescue of oppressed people around the world.
The problem is that launching more than a hundred cruise missiles, destroying tanks and armored vehicles from the air, and sending soldiers into Libya to mark targets is not a humanitarian act by any sane definition. It’s an act of war, and only the Congress can declare war.
His defiance of Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, which grants Congress the sole and plenary power to declare war, was deliberate and calculated. Make no mistake, Obama is a constitutional scholar and knew exactly what he was doing. It was a test of the tenor of the public, a probing of the will of the People to accept without comment or objection the plenary exercise of executive power under the guidance of and subject to the approval of global government under circumstances where a plausible argument of necessity and humanitarian concern could be made.
It was a classic exercise of the Rahm Emmanuel maxim “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.” After encouraging the youth of the Middle East to rise up in rebellion against brutal dictators and helping to set the Middle East aflame with his rhetoric and his sub-rosa machinations to foment unrest, Obama seized the golden opportunity of open insurrection in Libya to turn on our former “friend,” Moammar Gaddaffi, dictator of Libya, for whom Obama is seeking $1.5 million in “humanitarian” aid in his latest budget.
Why would Obama turn on Gaddafi and support an unknown group of insurrectionists who may end up being far worse for both Libya and the United States if they succeed in deposing Gaddafi? Gaddafi’s son, Saif al-Islam, excoriated Obama for the unproved attack and U.S. support of Libyan rebels saying, “Believe me, one day you will wake up and you made a big mistake with supporting these people.” So again, why would Obama risk censure and impeachment by knowingly violating the Constitution and declaring war on Libya?
Because his goal is not to liberate Libya, it’s to test the resolve of the the Congress and the People to see if we have abandoned our fundamental principles and the rule of law. What Obama is hoping is that the Congress has finally become impotent and irrelevant and will not dare to oppose him or repudiate his high crimes, and he believes that the time is right to advance his “fundamental transformation” of the United States into a vassal state of One World Government under the aegis of the United Nations and World Socialism.
This test of public sentiment towards unitary Progressive executive action and resort to international authority to make war rather than obedience to the Constitution is carefully and insidiously intended to strike another very serious blow against the sovereignty of the United States and our foundational documents and laws. Obama believes that the public will blithely accept his platitudes and humanitarian zeal as sufficient justification to excuse his outright, blatant, deliberate, knowing and treasonous violation of the Constitution and the Separation of Powers Doctrine.
If we buy his propaganda, if we ignore his defiance of the Constitution, he will have achieved what Woodrow Wilson could not with his advocacy for the League of Nations, and he will have set a precedent that even George Bush the Younger, Wilson-loving Progressive that he was, dared not attempt in Iraq. Bush at least sought and received Congressional authorization for the Iraq war. Obama has assumed dictatorial executive power by committing an unprovoked and unauthorized act of war against Libya, and doing so in a manner that proves his disdain for Congress and the Constitution, and his fawning obedience to the global power elite and the U.N.
Obama has admitted that he decided to attack Libya more than two weeks ago, while he was in Washington and while the Congress was in session, and while he could have presented the arguments that he presented to us tonight to the Congress for their debate and approval or rejection. Instead, he deliberately waited until Congress was not in session, and he was in South America, precisely so that he could claim urgency and the unavailability of Congress as his excuse for taking unilateral action to levy war on Libya. His consultation with the United Nations and NATO rings hollow as well, since neither organization has any power or control over the United States, much less any constitutional authority to authorize the President of the United States to levy war on a nation that is not a direct or even credible threat to the United States.
His platitudes and excuses after the fact simply do not excuse his defiance of the law and the Constitution. Nor should we allow him to get away with this arrogation of power. If we do, then the Constitution is indeed nothing but a piece of paper that might as well be used to wipe Obama’s rear, and we might as well acknowledge that the United States is no longer a sovereign power and a nation of laws, not men.
We, the People must flood our representatives in Congress with letters and phone calls demanding two things: First, that the Congress immediately defund the unprovoked warlike actions of our military in Libya, and second we must call for impeachment and removal of the President, who has finally violated the Constitution in a way that makes it imperative that we repudiate his “fundamental transformation” of our nation into a vassal of a one-world government.
© 2011 Altnews
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I suppose we should also dig up Ronnie and ask him some questions about some stuff that happened a few countries to the south of here while he was in office.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Go right ahead, but impeach Obama first.Robert_S wrote:I suppose we should also dig up Ronnie and ask him some questions about some stuff that happened a few countries to the south of here while he was in office.
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Re: Obama’s hidden agenda for the Libyan war
No use - dontcha remember how Ronnie, when questioned, could never remember anything. Alzheimers has its advantages!Robert_S wrote:I suppose we should also dig up Ronnie and ask him some questions about some stuff that happened a few countries to the south of here while he was in office.
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Where do the black helicopters fit in?
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They provide some action shots for when the movie version comes out, otherwise the proles would be bored.Clinton Huxley wrote:Where do the black helicopters fit in?
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You seem to know an awful lot about all this......egbert wrote:They provide some action shots for when the movie version comes out, otherwise the proles would be bored.Clinton Huxley wrote:Where do the black helicopters fit in?
I saw some green helicopters yesterday or maybe they were black ones painted green to throw valiant One-World-Order-Resisters off the scent...
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I think he's got emergency powers and something like 60 days to either go to Congress or withdraw US troops. Something like that. I'd look it up, but I'm not going to.
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I suppose Obama could always do the bombing in secret, like Kissinger/Nixon did in Cambodia...FBM wrote:I think he's got emergency powers and something like 60 days to either go to Congress or withdraw US troops. Something like that. I'd look it up, but I'm not going to.
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That was a simple navigation error...egbert wrote:I suppose Obama could always do the bombing in secret, like Kissinger/Nixon did in Cambodia...FBM wrote:I think he's got emergency powers and something like 60 days to either go to Congress or withdraw US troops. Something like that. I'd look it up, but I'm not going to.

OK, a few dozen simple navigation errors...

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David Icke was right! Who knew?
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What a biased outlook. We've been having unapproved military action for decades and you and the rest of the far right are suddenly pissed about it because it is Obama.Seth wrote:Go right ahead, but impeach Obama first.Robert_S wrote:I suppose we should also dig up Ronnie and ask him some questions about some stuff that happened a few countries to the south of here while he was in office.
Give me a fucking break.
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No shit. You would think the conservatives would love obama. They are just pissed because, like children, they want to be the one playing with the toys (the military). "Give me my toys backRobert_S wrote:What a biased outlook. We've been having unapproved military action for decades and you and the rest of the far right are suddenly pissed about it because it is Obama.Seth wrote:Go right ahead, but impeach Obama first.Robert_S wrote:I suppose we should also dig up Ronnie and ask him some questions about some stuff that happened a few countries to the south of here while he was in office.
Give me a fucking break.

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sandinista wrote:No shit. You would think the conservatives would love obama. They are just pissed because, like children, they want to be the one playing with the toys (the military). "Give me my toys backRobert_S wrote:Robert_S wrote:I suppose we should also dig up Ronnie and ask him some questions about some stuff that happened a few countries to the south of here while he was in office.
What a biased outlook. We've been having unapproved military action for decades and you and the rest of the far right are suddenly pissed about it because it is Obama.
Give me a fucking break."
Conservatives are just sheep and actually believe that there are two opposing sides in politics and that those two sides are the gop and the dems. And since the sides are opposing it stands to conservative reason that they have to be against everything the dems do .
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conservatives aren't the only ones who believe that..Morticia. wrote:sandinista wrote:No shit. You would think the conservatives would love obama. They are just pissed because, like children, they want to be the one playing with the toys (the military). "Give me my toys backRobert_S wrote:Robert_S wrote:I suppose we should also dig up Ronnie and ask him some questions about some stuff that happened a few countries to the south of here while he was in office.
What a biased outlook. We've been having unapproved military action for decades and you and the rest of the far right are suddenly pissed about it because it is Obama.
Give me a fucking break."
Conservatives are just sheep and actually believe that there are two opposing sides in politics and that those two sides are the gop and the dems. And since the sides are opposing it stands to conservative reason that they have to be against everything the dems do .
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