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Post by PsychoSerenity » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:51 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ma ... est-groups

http://marchforthealternative.org.uk/



I'm not sure how much this will achieve, but I'm glad people are fighting - I wish I'd heard about this sooner, I'd join in.
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Re: march for the alternative, anti-cuts protest

Post by Pensioner » Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:40 pm

Could not agree more with your post, we have got to fight back against these modern robber barons who blame the poor and the weak for all society’s ills. If enough of us join together and say loud and clear fuck you, you bastards you made yourselves rich at the expense of working folk and the small business man, you shits should pay the price for your greed. Is it going to happen? Not without a fight it isn’t.
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John Maclean (Scottish socialist) speech from the Dock 1918.

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Post by devogue » Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:43 pm

Pensioner wrote:Could not agree more with your post, we have got to fight back against these modern robber barons who blame the poor and the weak for all society’s ills. If enough of us join together and say loud and clear fuck you, you bastards you made yourselves rich at the expense of working folk and the small business man, you shits should pay the price for your greed. Is it going to happen? Not without a fight it isn’t.
Nothing will happen and these bastard scumbag criminals know it. If there was even a hint of dangerous unrest the fuckers would sent the army in to stamp out dissent quicker than the fucking Chinese.

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Re: march for the alternative, anti-cuts protest

Post by devogue » Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:45 pm

I should also say that the powers that be in the West have shackled people by making it clear that even the smallest infraction that gets you a criminal record will fuck your life up forever if you want to take part in their shoddy game for a few crumbs to keep you and your family going.

People are desperately fearful of getting any sort of mark on their criminal record, so anger is surpressed.

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Re: march for the alternative, anti-cuts protest

Post by PsychoSerenity » Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:30 pm

People can only be pushed so far - and I think they are crossing the line - what is the relevance of the risk of a criminal record to someone that's been unemployed for a year anyway?
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Post by Feck » Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:39 pm

The Government can happily ignore a peaceful protest ,they would love it to get out of hand ,they WILL have undercover people there to encourage it to get nasty . police tactics will be to annoy and frustrate you to that end .

There are more ways to piss of the government than a big march.
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Post by egbert » Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:44 pm

Well, here in the colony known as Canader, we're in for an election. Already, the pollsters are phoning the bozos, including me. So, when I was asked last night, which party I would be voting for, I told the dumb bitch on the phone "Communist", and she had to ask me how to spell it! ROTFLMAO!
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Re: march for the alternative, anti-cuts protest

Post by PsychoSerenity » Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:51 pm

Feck wrote:The Government can happily ignore a peaceful protest ,they would love it to get out of hand ,they WILL have undercover people there to encourage it to get nasty . police tactics will be to annoy and frustrate you to that end .
There are apparently going to be quite a lot of off-duty police officers openly joining in with this protest - and a whole load of lawyers protesting the proposed cuts to civil legal aid - so if there is trouble the results could be interesting to say the least.
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Post by Seth » Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:59 pm

Pensioner wrote:Could not agree more with your post, we have got to fight back against these modern robber barons who blame the poor and the weak for all society’s ills. If enough of us join together and say loud and clear fuck you, you bastards you made yourselves rich at the expense of working folk and the small business man, you shits should pay the price for your greed. Is it going to happen? Not without a fight it isn’t.
Ah yes, Marxist revolutionary rhetoric that will end up getting people killed, and those who survive the anarchy will begin to starve to death because every Marxist wants something for nothing. Evidently you learned nothing from the Soviet Union or Cuba.

The problem with the UK is that it's been socialist for too long, and the OPM has run out, and now the socialist chickens are coming home to roost in masse, and the proletariat is beginning to see the ultimate and inevitable course of socialism: Chaos, anarchy, death, destruction, starvation, privation and dissolution of civilization.

People who think socialism is a good idea ought to get it, good and hard.

Enjoy!
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Re: march for the alternative, anti-cuts protest

Post by Gallstones » Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:10 pm

In other news, Deer Lodge county wants to impose 17 mill levies to pay for upgrades to the cemeteries--all privately owned plots--and double the fees for emergency services.

Charge the fucking plot owners for the upgrades. They should be paying a maintenance fee anyway.
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Re: march for the alternative, anti-cuts protest

Post by Pensioner » Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:24 pm

Seth wrote:
Pensioner wrote:Could not agree more with your post, we have got to fight back against these modern robber barons who blame the poor and the weak for all society’s ills. If enough of us join together and say loud and clear fuck you, you bastards you made yourselves rich at the expense of working folk and the small business man, you shits should pay the price for your greed. Is it going to happen? Not without a fight it isn’t.
Seth said
"Ah yes, Marxist revolutionary rhetoric that will end up getting people killed, and those who survive the anarchy will begin to starve to death because every Marxist wants something for nothing. Evidently you learned nothing from the Soviet Union or Cuba.

The problem with the UK is that it's been socialist for too long, and the OPM has run out, and now the socialist chickens are coming home to roost in masse, and the proletariat is beginning to see the ultimate and inevitable course of socialism: Chaos, anarchy, death, destruction, starvation, privation and dissolution of civilization.

People who think socialism is a good idea ought to get it, good and hard."

Reprised gay are you, I can see you having a good wank when you posted good and hard.


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John Maclean (Scottish socialist) speech from the Dock 1918.

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Re: march for the alternative, anti-cuts protest

Post by devogue » Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:27 pm

Seth wrote:
Pensioner wrote:Could not agree more with your post, we have got to fight back against these modern robber barons who blame the poor and the weak for all society’s ills. If enough of us join together and say loud and clear fuck you, you bastards you made yourselves rich at the expense of working folk and the small business man, you shits should pay the price for your greed. Is it going to happen? Not without a fight it isn’t.
Ah yes, Marxist revolutionary rhetoric that will end up getting people killed, and those who survive the anarchy will begin to starve to death because every Marxist wants something for nothing. Evidently you learned nothing from the Soviet Union or Cuba.

The problem with the UK is that it's been socialist for too long, and the OPM has run out, and now the socialist chickens are coming home to roost in masse, and the proletariat is beginning to see the ultimate and inevitable course of socialism: Chaos, anarchy, death, destruction, starvation, privation and dissolution of civilization.

People who think socialism is a good idea ought to get it, good and hard.

Enjoy!
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Re: march for the alternative, anti-cuts protest

Post by .Morticia. » Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:32 pm

devogue wrote:I should also say that the powers that be in the West have shackled people by making it clear that even the smallest infraction that gets you a criminal record will fuck your life up forever if you want to take part in their shoddy game for a few crumbs to keep you and your family going.

People are desperately fearful of getting any sort of mark on their criminal record, so anger is surpressed.
^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS

that is why it is always the young without children and those without anything to lose get involved in any kind of grass roots direct action
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Post by devogue » Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:47 pm

.Morticia. wrote:
devogue wrote:I should also say that the powers that be in the West have shackled people by making it clear that even the smallest infraction that gets you a criminal record will fuck your life up forever if you want to take part in their shoddy game for a few crumbs to keep you and your family going.

People are desperately fearful of getting any sort of mark on their criminal record, so anger is surpressed.
^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS

that is why it is always the young without children and those without anything to lose get involved in any kind of grass roots direct action
And they are derided by the establishment press as either silly, idealistic youngsters or degenerate layabout dropouts with no "social responsibility" while the vast, grazing, stupified centre looks on with mildly irritated apathy. It's a subtle little set up.

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Re: march for the alternative, anti-cuts protest

Post by Rum » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:05 pm

So far it has been a 'phony war'. The cuts regime really kicks in with the new financial year on 1st April. That is when the free nurseries and libraries shut, when projects which keeps kids of the streets and youth crime a bit lower shut, when mental health charities for people who otherwise will find themselves sleeping rough lose their budgets, when the social workers lose their jobs, when preventative services supporting parents before they end up with their kids in the care system lose their funding. It is when your rubbish collection is likely to be reduced and when the pot holes in the roads will start staying there a few months longer before they are filled.

It is also when the government will see increasing manifestations of the anger out here as it sinks in what the reality of the so far phony cuts really is.

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