Detroit: Death of a City

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Detroit: Death of a City

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:47 pm

Detroit lost 25% of its population, as compared to New Orleans, which was hit by Hurricane Katrina, which lost 29%....
The flight of middle-class African-Americans to the suburbs fueled an exodus that cut Detroit's population 25% in the past decade to 713,777, according to Census Bureau data released Tuesday. That's the city's lowest population level since the 1910 census, when automobile mass production was making Detroit Detroit.

The decline, the fastest in city history, shocked local officials, who had expected a number closer to 800,000. Mayor Dave Bing said the city would seek a recount.

"If we could go out and identify another 40,000 people that were missed, and it brings us over the threshold of 750,000, that would make a difference from what we can get from the federal and state government," Mr. Bing said at a news conference Tuesday.

In all, the city lost more than 237,000 residents, including 185,000 blacks and about 41,000 whites. The Hispanic population ticked up by 1,500. Meanwhile, the black population in neighboring Macomb County more than tripled to 72,723, constituting 8.6% of the county's population in 2010, compared with 2.7% a decade earlier. Oakland County's African-American population rose 36% to 164,078.

Detroit's population has fallen steadily since the heyday of the auto industry in the 1950s, when it peaked around two million, but the declines have accelerated in recent years as manufacturing jobs have disappeared and the mortgage crisis has devastated even stable, middle-class neighborhoods. The number of vacant housing units doubled in the past decade to nearly 80,000, more than one-fifth of the city's housing stock, the Census Bureau reported.

"For those of us who have been out in the neighborhoods, we knew that the foreclosures and the abandonment were really extreme and accelerating," said Lyke Thompson, director of Wayne State University's Center for Urban Studies. "The question is, can you put a bottom under it?"

In 1950, Detroit was the fifth-largest city in America, behind New York, Chicago, Philadelphia and Los Angeles, and it was in the top 10 as recently as the 1990 Census. Now, Detroit is likely to fall to 19th, behind Indianapolis and Columbus, Ohio.

The numbers add new urgency to Mr. Bing's campaign to align the sprawling city's finances and geography with its shrinking population—a process the mayor acknowledges is taking more time than he envisioned. For more than a year, the mayor has been working on a restructuring plan that would end some municipal services in sparsely populated areas. At the same time, the city is working to attract young, educated residents to help stabilize neighborhoods.

"We are going to continue to lose population unless we continue to make cultural changes," Mayor Bing said Tuesday. "We have got to make sure that our neighborhoods are safe, that they are growing, that we have good housing stock and make sure that people have the right services. All those things are very important at maintaining population."

Earlier this year, the mayor announced a program to entice Detroit police officers—more than half of whom live outside the city—to buy homes in the Detroit. The initial response has been strong, Police Chief Ralph Godbee said in an interview last week. Wayne State and two downtown hospital systems have offered a similar program in the city's Midtown neighborhood, the hub of a growing creative community.

Even with these programs, local demographer Kurt Metzger expects the city's population to fall further. High taxes and failing schools in the city, and inexpensive housing in the suburbs, combine to make Detroit a tough sell.

"People are still looking to move out for safety and services," said Mr. Metzger, director of Data Driven Detroit, which compiles Census data for the city. The population-decline numbers, which exceeded his own estimates by 75,000, will only reinforce negative perceptions of the city, he said.

The Census report comes amid signs that the regional and state economies are beginning to stabilize. Michigan added 10,000 manufacturing jobs last year, and unemployment has dropped sharply.
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If you ever want to visit the shittiest city you've ever seen in a western, industrialized country...I'll stack Detroit right up there with the worst of 'em. It is ugly, sooty, nasty, and pointless.

But, I will say, if you have the misfortune of having to spend some time there, do go to the Mexican restaurants down in Mexican town (near the bridge to Canada). They are great.

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Re: Detroit: Death of a City

Post by Ian » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:14 pm

It'll all change once OCP begins construction of Delta City.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:22 pm

Ian wrote:It'll all change once OCP begins construction of Delta City.
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Post by maiforpeace » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:19 am

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Post by Feck » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:10 am

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I'd kill a city for that Pic

In fact they could corner the market in post apocalypse film sets
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Re: Detroit: Death of a City

Post by .Morticia. » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:24 am

it's like all cities

there are good parts and bad parts
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Post by .Morticia. » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:29 am

i luv this

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Post by Wumbologist » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:44 am

.Morticia. wrote:it's like all cities

there are good parts and bad parts
Right. Then there's Detroit, which has good parts and urban wastelands reminiscent of post-apocalyptic fiction. :razzle:

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Post by Twoflower » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:46 am

It's now the murder capitol of America. At least it's number one in something. :sigh:
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And I'm free, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I flow, just like a brook, a stream, the rain
And I fly, just like a bird up in the sky
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And dragged away and thrown away
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Re: Detroit: Death of a City

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:53 pm

.Morticia. wrote:it's like all cities

there are good parts and bad parts
There are degrees to everything, though, and the amount of "suck" that is in Detroit is staggering. There is very little good to say about the City of Detroit. The downtown is small and dirty - very grey looking. The monorail called the People Mover is an eyesore that clogs up the downtown and is a pointless waste of money. When I was last there, there still were a couple of good restaurants downtown - like I said, Mexican Town has a few good Mexican places, but it's in what looks to any eye as a bombed out slum.

The roads suck.

Driving from the Ren Center to Grosse Pointe will make your jaw drop with how awful it looks. Hookers and garbage line the streets from downtown up to Wayne State University. Ferndale is o.k., although cross over into Detroit and it's crack house central and burned out houses. Leave a house empty in Detroit for a few weeks, and people will break into them and steal the copper and other valuable items.

Over on the West side, by the old train station and the old Tiger Stadium, you can't get an uglier sight.

25% of the population didn't leave detroit in the last 10 years because it has a lot of niceties to balance out the suck.

It looks nice at night from Windsor Canada, across the river, though. I'll give it that.

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Re: Detroit: Death of a City

Post by .Morticia. » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:54 pm

detroit is the future of america 8-)
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Re: Detroit: Death of a City

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:56 pm

.Morticia. wrote:detroit is the future of america 8-)
Then we are all doomed.

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But, they do have a great baseball stadium. A great combo if one is stuck in "the D" for a few days is to go to a Tigers' game at Comerica Park, which is an excellent stadium in which to catch a ball game....

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Then follow that up with Margaritas and Mexican food at Xochimilco over in Mexican Village.

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Note - however, that even though Xochimilco is a great Mexican restaurant, it looks like shit on the outside, and Mexican Village is a pit. But, that's Detroit.

When you drive into Detroit off of route 94 from the airport or off of the Northwestern Highway, this is the first thing that greets you downtown:

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It's a giant sculpture of an arm and a fist, and it points at the vehicles entering the heart of Detroit. It's Joe Louis' arm and fist (an old school boxer from back in the day who originated in Detroit), but the message it sends to guests is quite different.

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Re: Detroit: Death of a City

Post by Warren Dew » Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:56 pm

.Morticia. wrote:detroit is the future of unionized america 8-)
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Re: Detroit: Death of a City

Post by Wumbologist » Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:34 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
When you drive into Detroit off of route 94 from the airport or off of the Northwestern Highway, this is the first thing that greets you downtown:

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It's a giant sculpture of an arm and a fist, and it points at the vehicles entering the heart of Detroit. It's Joe Louis' arm and fist (an old school boxer from back in the day who originated in Detroit), but the message it sends to guests is quite different.

If I ever visit Detroit, I now know what the first touristy photo I'm taking there will be. A little play on perspective... :hehe:

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