David Cameron's Assault on the Homeless

[sandinista]

Didn't think so. Guess you didn't want to destroy your entire ideology.

Not that it's germane. The question is not one of comparative guilt, the question is one of fact: Have Marxist governments killed 100 million people in the last century. The answer is emphatically yes, and the facts are in the record.

The fact is, capitalist governments, yes governments, have been responsible for more terror on this planet than any other system, that's an undisputed fact. The number 100 million you keep throwing out is NOT a fact, not even close.

Even if "capitalism" had killed the same number of people, it would be irrelevant because two wrongs do not make a right. Presumably you feel that Marxism is superior to Capitalism, which appears to be your assertion, which means that to actually be "better" it would have to provide for better social outcomes than Capitalism. Even if I accept your specious assertions as true, it's evident that Marxism is NOT "better" than Capitalism at providing just and useful social outcomes.

Of course two wrongs don't make a right. Capitalism has provided better social outcomes? You must be joking. Perhaps to the wealthy (both individuals and countries) but the fact is, it is a plague on the poor of the planet...the majority.

Where Capitalism may (and I emphasize "may" in the "arguendo" sense) not prevent deaths due to disaster or may contribute to economic inequality that results in death, such things occur as a side-effect of Capitalism, not as a necessary function or intentional result. This cannot be said of Marxism, which is inherently radical, revolutionary and violent, BY DESIGN AND INTENTION OF ITS AUTHOR. Marxism does not allow death to happen, Marxism CALLS FOR and RECOMMENDS the deaths of and the killing of counterrevolutionaries and traitors to the cause, as well as the violent expropriation of the goods of the bourgeoisie merchant class and their subjugation and eventual destruction for being reactionaries.

"May" contribute to economic inequality that results in death? Side effect? What a pile of horse shit. Inequality is a necessary function of capitalism. By design, capitalism is inherently violent, imperialist, and oppressive.

There is a substantial moral difference between an economic system that does not prevent people from suffering the consequences of either nature or their own actions, and a socio-political system that openly advocates and engages in genocide and murder as a desirable and necessary part of purging the society of disruptive and reactionary elements.

That's what makes Marxism an utterly fucking evil and irredeemable socio-political ideology that must be extirpated from the face of the earth.

you really don't believe that. Not possible. I like how all the murderous actions by capitalist governments are "unintended" or somehow the fault of the victims. "Consequence of nature"...yah, bombs falling from the sky, training death squads, overthrowing governments, mass torture, and imposed bondage are consequences of nature. Interesting world view you got there.

[Seth]

Didn't think so. Guess you didn't want to destroy your entire ideology.

Not that it's germane. The question is not one of comparative guilt, the question is one of fact: Have Marxist governments killed 100 million people in the last century. The answer is emphatically yes, and the facts are in the record.

The fact is, capitalist governments, yes governments, have been responsible for more terror on this planet than any other system, that's an undisputed fact. The number 100 million you keep throwing out is NOT a fact, not even close.

The scratched and warped one playing over and over in your mind, perhaps...

Even if "capitalism" had killed the same number of people, it would be irrelevant because two wrongs do not make a right. Presumably you feel that Marxism is superior to Capitalism, which appears to be your assertion, which means that to actually be "better" it would have to provide for better social outcomes than Capitalism. Even if I accept your specious assertions as true, it's evident that Marxism is NOT "better" than Capitalism at providing just and useful social outcomes.

Of course two wrongs don't make a right. Capitalism has provided better social outcomes? You must be joking. Perhaps to the wealthy (both individuals and countries) but the fact is, it is a plague on the poor of the planet...the majority.

Except for the inconvenient fact that capitalism has lifted more people OUT of poverty than Marxism ever has. All Marxism does is make everyone equally poor and miserable.

Where Capitalism may (and I emphasize "may" in the "arguendo" sense) not prevent deaths due to disaster or may contribute to economic inequality that results in death, such things occur as a side-effect of Capitalism, not as a necessary function or intentional result. This cannot be said of Marxism, which is inherently radical, revolutionary and violent, BY DESIGN AND INTENTION OF ITS AUTHOR. Marxism does not allow death to happen, Marxism CALLS FOR and RECOMMENDS the deaths of and the killing of counterrevolutionaries and traitors to the cause, as well as the violent expropriation of the goods of the bourgeoisie merchant class and their subjugation and eventual destruction for being reactionaries.

"May" contribute to economic inequality that results in death? Side effect? What a pile of horse shit. Inequality is a necessary function of capitalism. By design, capitalism is inherently violent, imperialist, and oppressive.

Only in Marxist propaganda.

There is a substantial moral difference between an economic system that does not prevent people from suffering the consequences of either nature or their own actions, and a socio-political system that openly advocates and engages in genocide and murder as a desirable and necessary part of purging the society of disruptive and reactionary elements.

That's what makes Marxism an utterly fucking evil and irredeemable socio-political ideology that must be extirpated from the face of the earth.

you really don't believe that. Not possible.

Oh yes, if there is one thing that you can be absolutely certain is an opinion that I personally hold near and dear, and a principle that I will defend and advance by force when necessary, it's that Marxism is irredeemably evil and a blight on humanity that, like cancer, needs to be cut away and destroyed, root and branch, if humanity is to survive.

[sandinista]

The scratched and warped one playing over and over in your mind, perhaps...

The only scratched warped world view is coming from your "mind".

Except for the inconvenient fact that capitalism has lifted more people OUT of poverty than Marxism ever has. All Marxism does is make everyone equally poor and miserable.

Not inconvenient or a fact. Simply "free" market propaganda.

Oh yes, if there is one thing that you can be absolutely certain is an opinion that I personally hold near and dear, and a principle that I will defend and advance by force when necessary, it's that Marxism is irredeemably evil and a blight on humanity that, like cancer, needs to be cut away and destroyed, root and branch, if humanity is to survive.