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Post by maiforpeace » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:29 am

In light of the immediate health risks like the lack of clean drinking water, food, shelter and health care, it's hard to imagine that a nuclear threat only poses a secondary risk presently.

Those poor, poor people.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:17 pm

SOMA, Japan – Dangerous levels of radiation leaking from a crippled nuclear plant forced Japan to order 140,000 people to seal themselves indoors Tuesday after an explosion and a fire dramatically escalated the crisis spawned by a deadly tsunami.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan_earthquake

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Post by Thumpalumpacus » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:22 pm

Will head-pressure alone achieve the requisite GPM to provide efficient cooling?

eta: Never mind, answer was buried in the thread. Found it.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:49 pm

Radiation plume could reach Tokyo: U.S. scientists
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/ ... WX20110315

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:54 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Radiation plume could reach Tokyo: U.S. scientists
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/ ... WX20110315
Yawn. If it's detectable at all I'll be impressed.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:09 pm

France's Nuclear Safety Authority said the disaster now equated to a six on the seven-point international scale for nuclear accidents, ranking the crisis second only in gravity to Chernobyl.

Europe's energy commissioner Guenther Oettinger dubbed the nuclear disaster an "apocalypse", saying Tokyo had almost lost control of events at the Fukushima power plant.

"There is talk of an apocalypse and I think the word is particularly well chosen," he said in remarks to the European Parliament.

Japan however maintained its assessment of the disaster at a four, placing it behind the Three Mile Island accident in the United States in 1979.
http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaki ... 1bw5o.html

I love how the Japanese want to characterize this as "not as bad as three mile island." Not one single person died as a result of the Three Mile Island incident. At tThree Mile Island, one of two reactors lost its coolant, which caused overheating and partial meltdown of its uranium core. Some radioactive water and gases were released. Nobody was exposed. Nobody died. In the face of a core meltdown, the pressure vessel held and there was no breach of the plant's containment structure. Only "tiny amounts of the most dangerous forms of volatile radiation escaped to the atmosphere" http://www.thebulletin.org/web-edition/ ... ile-island


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Re: Japan Nuclear Coverage

Post by maiforpeace » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:16 pm

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France's Nuclear Safety Authority said the disaster now equated to a six on the seven-point international scale for nuclear accidents, ranking the crisis second only in gravity to Chernobyl.

Europe's energy commissioner Guenther Oettinger dubbed the nuclear disaster an "apocalypse", saying Tokyo had almost lost control of events at the Fukushima power plant.

"There is talk of an apocalypse and I think the word is particularly well chosen," he said in remarks to the European Parliament.

Japan however maintained its assessment of the disaster at a four, placing it behind the Three Mile Island accident in the United States in 1979.


How does France and the energy commissioner know this?
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Re: Japan Nuclear Coverage

Post by Svartalf » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:23 pm

Like everybody else, they shoot their mouth off to prevent flies from getting sucked in.

Seriously, the commish has a serious case of foot in mouth, saying that at the current stage... it may reach that point, but unless a 50 km radius around the plant is turned to uninhabitable irradiated wasteland, that's a gross hyperbole.
As for the NSA guy, I guess he's stating how far it has progressed, given the current prognosis.
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Post by Warren Dew » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:27 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Radiation plume could reach Tokyo: U.S. scientists
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/ ... WX20110315
Some Tokyo suburbs are already reporting elevated radiation levels, albeit not at dangerous levels yet.
maiforpeace wrote:How does France and the energy commissioner know this?
France's estimate of a "6" on the 7 point scale is based on having read my estimate in a post upthread, I'm sure. They're also feeling cocky because France's liquid metal cooled design is the only major commercial reactor design that hasn't had a core meltdown yet, thus the use of the exaggeration "apocalypse".

However, on rereading the the definitions of that 7 point nuclear accident scale, it appears that TMI should actually be a "3" or below rather than a "5", since "4" and above involve deaths. That means Fukushima might end up being a "5" instead of a "6".

Sorry about that, France's Nuclear Safety Authority. Oh, and your Superphenix design is next. Have fun with your highly flammable sodium coolant!

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Post by Geoff » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:58 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12745899
Germany has temporarily shut down seven of its nuclear power plants while it reconsiders its nuclear strategy.
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Post by Svartalf » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:06 pm

I just hope for them we don't get another cold snap...
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Post by beige » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:12 pm

Geoff wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12745899
Germany has temporarily shut down seven of its nuclear power plants while it reconsiders its nuclear strategy.
:? What the hell?

Is this just a case of "shit people are suddenly scared of nuclear stuff, so we'll look like we're doing something"?
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