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by PsychoSerenity » Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:08 pm
The BBC has banned a team of students from having a kettle as their mascot on University Challenge, frustrating their plans to protest against police tactics.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvan ... ascot.html
So this light hearted protest of police tactics has been foiled, but with what's going on in this country at the moment, there are likely to be many more protests over the next few years, and more "kettling" with it.
I'm curious to know what people think of this "crowd containment policy", - and I'd like to hear if you've got some suggestions of how to organise a protest, that prevents this tactic being used against us.
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by Azathoth » Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:14 pm
Lots of small protests all over a city rather than having everyone in the same place
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by Gallstones » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:41 pm
A kettle---in the US it is something you cook in----is, uhm, provocative!?
What am I not understanding?
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by .Morticia. » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:53 pm
They do it in Brussels to "contain" football hooligans.
The cops wait until the game is on. That way all the real fans won't be affected.
Then they wait for the hooligans to gather. Then they herd them down a series of alleyways until they are cornered in a dead end. Then they tear gas them.
Then they chase after the ones who have the presence of mind to run because they are the ring leaders.
Similar tactics were used in Toronto for the G20. They herded a peaceful group of protestors and cordoned them off and wouldn't let them leave for over 6 hours.
When some got a little edgy, on account of having to take a piss, and attempted to leave, they were clubbed and arrested.
That's not nice.
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by Gallstones » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:57 pm
.Morticia. wrote:They do it in Brussels to "contain" football hooligans.
The cops wait until the game is on. That way all the real fans won't be affected.
Then they wait for the hooligans to gather. Then they herd them down a series of alleyways until they are cornered in a dead end. Then they tear gas them.
Then they chase after the ones who have the presence of mind to run because they are the ring leaders.
Similar tactics were used in Toronto for the G20. They herded a peaceful group of protestors and cordoned them off and wouldn't let them leave for over 6 hours.
When some got a little edgy, on account of having to take a piss, and attempted to leave, they were clubbed and arrested.
That's not nice.
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by PsychoSerenity » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:06 pm
Azathoth wrote:Lots of small protests all over a city rather than having everyone in the same place
See I like this idea but I'm not sure how you'd go about organising it so that it'd still be a noticeable protest, i.e. so the small groups don't get lost in the crowds and ignored. I think you could cause a lot of disruption to the traffic, but that would only really annoy the road users.
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by .Morticia. » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:47 pm
Psychoserenity wrote:Azathoth wrote:Lots of small protests all over a city rather than having everyone in the same place
See I like this idea but I'm not sure how you'd go about organising it so that it'd still be a noticeable protest, i.e. so the small groups don't get lost in the crowds and ignored. I think you could cause a lot of disruption to the traffic, but that would only really annoy the road users.
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by Azathoth » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:51 pm
Psychoserenity wrote:Azathoth wrote:Lots of small protests all over a city rather than having everyone in the same place
See I like this idea but I'm not sure how you'd go about organising it so that it'd still be a noticeable protest, i.e. so the small groups don't get lost in the crowds and ignored. I think you could cause a lot of disruption to the traffic, but that would only really annoy the road users.
It would only work for a large protest. Just give 20-30 venues and tell people to take their pick. The coppers would fucking hate it because they would have to spread themselves really thinly to cover everything
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by Feck » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:59 pm
Shut the tube stations down at 5pm .
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by MarkS » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:37 am
Yes, guerrilla actions as opposed to "legitimate" protest. Of course they would then start to call us "terrorists" and you know they have some nice new laws to cover that eventuality.
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by PsychoSerenity » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:21 pm
Look what I found! not that I have a smartphone, but it can tell you which way to move in a big protest crowd to avoid police blockades, updated constantly by other users.
Awesome solution.
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by Feck » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:27 pm
MarkS wrote:Yes, guerrilla actions as opposed to "legitimate" protest. Of course they would then start to call us "terrorists" and you know they have some nice new laws to cover that eventuality.
They use all and every new power they have to defend us against the terrorist thread in normal everyday policing anyway .
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by Callan » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:34 pm
Azathoth wrote:Lots of small protests all over a city rather than having everyone in the same place
Groups of fewer than 12 people will circumvent the Riot Act.
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