Atheist flyering

[charlou]

No problem with your idea .. and I like the pic ... though it's kinda 'out there', while humanity is ... here ... though I see that's part of the point ...

I'm interested in the proposed inclusion of the rationalia URL ... I'm a member of ratz and I'd rather you didn't include the url in a message you wish to spread.

Me too. Imagine the embarrasment for me if this site become well known and my name was associated with it? Not on account of the atheism but all the other stuff.

hmmm ... individuals' names ... that's not quite it ...


The forum doesn't represent a single view ... What does the addition of the ratz url on a single view imply?


If a member with views you don't share or advocate wants to use the rationalia url on their flyers, brochures or whatever, would you be okay with that?

[Atheist-Lite]

No problem with your idea .. and I like the pic ... though it's kinda 'out there', while humanity is ... here ... though I see that's part of the point ...

I'm interested in the proposed inclusion of the rationalia URL ... I'm a member of ratz and I'd rather you didn't include the url in a message you wish to spread.

Me too. Imagine the embarrasment for me if this site become well known and my name was associated with it? Not on account of the atheism but all the other stuff.

hmmm ... individual's names ... not quite it ...

If a member with views you don't share or advocate wants to use the rationalia url on their flyers, brochures or whatever, would you be okay with that?

The forum doesn't represent a single view ... What does the addition of the ratz url on a single view imply?

[charlou]

I read sarcasm into your first reply ... apologies if I was off with that.

Either way, what's the head scratching about?

[maiforpeace]

That didn't occur to me Charlou, you're right. If linking to Rationalia, at minimum permission should be asked first.

And, no offense Halogenetic, but we hardly know you either.

Create your own Facebook group to link to, in addition that email account I suggested earlier Halo...that should be plenty!

[Hermit]

Sorry to rain on your parade, Halogenetic, but I'd rather not see the flyer pretend to speak on behalf of Rationalia unless the forum decides in some formal way to endorse it. Just speaking for myself, I'd vote against it. It reminds me too much of the junk mail from religious organisations that gets shoved into letterboxes, slipped under front doors and handed out in shopping centres.

[Pappa]

Sorry to rain on your parade, Halogenetic, but I'd rather not see the flyer pretend to speak on behalf of Rationalia unless the forum decides in some formal way to endorse it. Just speaking for myself, I'd vote against it.

Same here. Great flyer, but I wouldn't like our name to be appearing to be officially connected with it.

[Atheist-Lite]

I don't like it. Something like that could attract Christian trolls far worse than Chucky. It is a red rag to the bull. Also its far too retro with that Carl Sagan feel which invites nostalgia and ultimately depression.

[Thinking Aloud]

I tend to agree with the previous posts, and would recommend promoting via a dedicated URL or facebook page, rather than trying to associate with a particular extant site. While rationalia is populated mostly by freethinking types, and does cover religious and other topics, it doesn't have the kind of "mission" outlined on the flyer itself. It's probably not the place you'd necessarily want to attract religious people seeking reasons to deconvert either, not unless they're particularly into finding out about the taste of semen ... we're not the most restrained group in the world when it comes to tolerance of religion either!

[Halogenetic]

Sorry to rain on your parade, Halogenetic, but I'd rather not see the flyer pretend to speak on behalf of Rationalia unless the forum decides in some formal way to endorse it. Just speaking for myself, I'd vote against it. It reminds me too much of the junk mail from religious organisations that gets shoved into letterboxes, slipped under front doors and handed out in shopping centres.

Would it not be popular for rationalia to have some officially endorsed flyers? I thought the forum might be pleased to be advertised but I guess not along with a message which is not widely endorsed. The idea of atheistic flyers seemed quite well supported in my welcome thread. I just got back from work (12 hour shifts) so am pretty cream crackered and can't do all the replies justice right now. Thanks for all the feedback mind. Looking for a different quote I found these three which might be an improvement over the second quote which is certainly a bit grim so probably a bad idea:

"Belief" is not something you can turn on and off like a spigot. No person can truly "believe in God" unless the evidence convinces his or her mind. If you don't believe me, try believing that the stars are holes punched into a heavenly dome, with the light of heaven shining through. Pascal's recommendation is inherently impractical. - -Dave Matson

I am an atheist, out and out. It took me a long time to say it. I've been an atheist for years and years, but somehow I felt it was intellectually unrespectable to say one was an atheist, because it assumed knowledge that one didn't have. Somehow it was better to say one was a humanist or an agnostic. I finally decided that I'm a creature of emotion as well as of reason. Emotionally I am an atheist. I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time. -Isaac Asimov

Terry Pratchett satirized Pascal's Wager in Hogfather, a comedic fantasy novel about the nature of belief. A philosopher claimed, "Possibly the gods exist, and possibly they do not. So why not believe in them in any case? If it's all true you'll go to a lovely place when you die, and if it isn't then you've lost nothing, right?" When the philosopher died, "he woke up in a circle of gods holding nasty-looking sticks and one of them said, 'We're going to show you what we think of Mr Clever Dick in these parts...'" – wikipedia

[Rum]

I really admire your sentiment, but Ratz isn't an organisation as such and it has no agenda that has ever been agreed at any rate about it as any sort of campaigning group. I agree with other earlier posts that it would not be appropriate to suggest that Ratz somehow is behind the message on the flyer, even though nearly everyone here individually would probably support the message. Ratz has no corporate identity in that sense.

Maybe your idea is a prompt for us to think about the issue.

[Feck]

I think the flyers are a thing for you to do and enjoy as a personal project , But I don't think the forum as whole would want to advertise in that way .

As mentioned before link to a Face Book page , and I'm sure some of us will visit.

[rachelbean]

It's probably not the place you'd necessarily want to attract religious people seeking reasons to deconvert either, not unless they're particularly into finding out about the taste of semen ...

Yeah, that's getting sigged!

[Atheist-Lite]

I really admire your sentiment, but Ratz isn't an organisation as such and it has no agenda that has ever been agreed at any rate about it as any sort of campaigning group. I agree with other earlier posts that it would not be appropriate to suggest that Ratz somehow is behind the message on the flyer, even though nearly everyone here individually would probably support the message. Ratz has no corporate identity in that sense.

Maybe your idea is a prompt for us to think about the issue.

Empires crumble. They always crumble. Until there is nothing left except for a few weary anarchists and this site.

[Hermit]

Would it not be popular for rationalia to have some officially endorsed flyers?

Going by the replies in this thread so far, it appears the answer is "no".

[roter-kaiser]

There is far too much text on this flyer IMO, and the sentences are way to long and complicated to be easily read and understood without knowing what the flyer is about. It needs a catch phrase to attract attention To be honest, I probably wouldn't bother reading it if I found that somewhere at a pub or elsewhere.