Missouri, US: Bring back child labor - WTF?!?!?!
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Re: Missouri, US: Bring back child labor - WTF?!?!?!
BTW, I hope you all checked that last link I posted.
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Re: Missouri, US: Bring back child labor - WTF?!?!?!
My bile wasn't for the bill, it was for Jane Cunningham. But it's interesting we would both use that word.Seth wrote:maiforpeace wrote:Brought to you by the honorable Jane Cunningham.Ronja wrote:Somebody please, please tell me this is an elaborate hoax, a faked website - anything! (emphasis mine)
http://www.senate.mo.gov/11info/BTS_Web ... ID=4124271This act modifies the child labor laws. It eliminates the prohibition on employment of children under age fourteen. Restrictions on the number of hours and restrictions on when a child may work during the day are also removed. It also repeals the requirement that a child ages fourteen or fifteen obtain a work certificate or work permit in order to be employed. Children under sixteen will also be allowed to work in any capacity in a motel, resort or hotel where sleeping accommodations are furnished. It also removes the authority of the director of the Division of Labor Standards to inspect employers who employ children and to require them to keep certain records for children they employ. It also repeals the presumption that the presence of a child in a workplace is evidence of employment.
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Ronja, don't bother reading through bills and proposals that many Republicans try to pass if you don't want to get sick, because you will get sick all the time then.
You might want to swallow your bile and read through this one, because it is primarily aimed at protecting child performers and actors and at eliminating a bunch of bureaucracy regarding work permits. It also repeals SOME prohibitions on where children can work, which will allow them, for example, to hold a job cleaning motel rooms, changing sheets, and cleaning toilets, which is no different than cleaning toilets, changing sheets or vacuuming at home, now is it? It allows young people to make pocket money working at non-hazardous jobs without having to suffer through a massive "work permit" bureaucracy. No substantive workplace safety laws have been repealed.
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Re: Missouri, US: Bring back child labor - WTF?!?!?!
Because it's not uncommon makes it even more disturbing. As ronja pointed out, if some laws are basically meaningless, than other laws begin to lose their meaning.Gawdzilla wrote:Bills get passed so the author can have bragging rights. It's not at all uncommon for bills to be passed with no means of enforcement, funding, etc. It's a political game.sandinista wrote:So, if these laws aren't enforced, why do they exist? As long as they are considered laws they should be worried about.Twoflower wrote:Michigan still has an anti-sodomy law and a law that makes it illegal to curse in front of women and children and a law making it illegal for women to get their hair cut without permission from their husband or father. None of them are really enforced so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Fuck if I know.sandinista wrote:So, if these laws aren't enforced, why do they exist? As long as they are considered laws they should be worried about.Twoflower wrote:Michigan still has an anti-sodomy law and a law that makes it illegal to curse in front of women and children and a law making it illegal for women to get their hair cut without permission from their husband or father. None of them are really enforced so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Re: Missouri, US: Bring back child labor - WTF?!?!?!
Yup. In Colorado, adultery is a crime, but there is no penalty prescribed for it, so it's unenforceable.Warren Dew wrote:Thanks for pointing that out, Seth. Yes, the full bill does give a rather different impression than the summary; the parents are still required to be present at all times in the case of child performers, for example.Seth wrote:You might want to swallow your bile and read through this one, because it is primarily aimed at protecting child performers and actors and at eliminating a bunch of bureaucracy regarding work permits.
Also, it's extremely rare that any law gets repealed. This is probably one of the reasons why the Tea Party advocates having expiration dates on all laws.Gawdzilla wrote:Bills get passed so the author can have bragging rights. It's not at all uncommon for bills to be passed with no means of enforcement, funding, etc. It's a political game.
I go farther than the Tea Party, and I say that for each new law enacted, TWO laws must be repealed.
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Now you know why no one in America respects any law he doesn't agree with.Ronja wrote:Also, and from my POV more importantly (and this is likely to come across as quaint) what about respect for the law in general? If there are laws that a clearly ridiculous, which are not cleaned off the books, and if politicians try to pass new laws that are idiotic and/or have no chance of passing, what happens to the general public's respect for any laws?
Seriously, the only people I know who obey the speed limit laws here are the ones that don't drive.
Re: Missouri, US: Bring back child labor - WTF?!?!?!
Speaking of which, I had to drive north through Denver today, and the State Patrol had more than a dozen SP and Sheriff's deputies out on a tear writing speeding tickets northbound. At least ten cars pulled over in a space of about five miles.Warren Dew wrote:Now you know why no one in America respects any law he doesn't agree with.Ronja wrote:Also, and from my POV more importantly (and this is likely to come across as quaint) what about respect for the law in general? If there are laws that a clearly ridiculous, which are not cleaned off the books, and if politicians try to pass new laws that are idiotic and/or have no chance of passing, what happens to the general public's respect for any laws?
Seriously, the only people I know who obey the speed limit laws here are the ones that don't drive.
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Re: Missouri, US: Bring back child labor - WTF?!?!?!
Twoflower wrote:Michigan still has an anti-sodomy law and a law that makes it illegal to curse in front of women and children and a law making it illegal for women to get their hair cut without permission from their husband or father. None of them are really enforced so I wouldn't worry about it.
I agree with the hair cut one





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Re: Missouri, US: Bring back child labor - WTF?!?!?!
There are all these stupid laws on the books, while there are many that desperately need to be implemented. Wearing a mankini or mullet haircut should be a misdemeanor, unless a mankini wearer also has a mullet, which should be a 1st Degree Felony. The definition of "illegal alien" should not apply to anyone who owns a riding mower or taco stand or can consistently hit over 0.350, but should include all Canadians with the surname "Bieber". Any and all instances of "God" in spoken, written or otherwise published material must be replaced with "Moe" (e.g. In the beginning, Moe created the heavens and the earth. One nation, under Moe. In Moe we Trust, Moedamn the pusher man). Alcohol sales and consumption will be compulsory on Sundays.
That would be a start.
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Re: Missouri, US: Bring back child labor - WTF?!?!?!
That's an entirely sensible law. Good for New Jersey.In New Jersey it is illegal to slurp soup,
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Does the bill actually stand a chance of being passed into law? 

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