Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by JimC » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:29 am

DawkBoy wrote:
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Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?
Who cares what he thinks.
I care what he thinks. He is a great man.
So, how do you feel about David Attenborough?
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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by Hermit » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:29 am

dj357 wrote:
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Trolldor wrote:I don't think he gives much of a shit so long as he gets his agenda and his name plastered all over the place.
What is his agenda? And why would he care to have his name plastered everywhere? What makes you think he isn't sincere?
His agenda is to add a knighthood to his dozen or so honorary doctorates, and that is one reason why he cares to have his name plastered everywhere. I don't know if anyone thinks he is insincere about any of it.
Any justification for this observation...?
In the typically British way of understating things, he is practically begging for it here: "As for the knighthood, how could I turn down what Sir David (and Sir Salman) saw fit to accept?" Oh, how humble can you get. :roll:

If you are not familiar with proper, upper class English, you might find this translation to pubspeak helpful: "Fucking give it to me already, cunts."
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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by Matty the Damned » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:41 am

I wouldn't surprised to learn he's holding out for a peerage.

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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by Robert_S » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:46 am

DawkBoy wrote:
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Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?
Who cares what he thinks.
I care what he thinks. He is a great man.
He writes a good book and gives a good talk. I don't know him personally

I thought I'd let people who might not have noticed know that this thread is a parody of this thread
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by JimC » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:12 am

Parody threads on Ratz? :o

Tell me it ain't so! :cry:
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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by charlou » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:20 am

Matty the Damned wrote:Baron Dawkins of Hades.
Too cool :dp:
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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by Svartalf » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:33 am

Robert_S wrote:
DawkBoy wrote:
.Morticia. wrote:
Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?
Who cares what he thinks.
I care what he thinks. He is a great man.
He writes a good book and gives a good talk. I don't know him personally

I thought I'd let people who might not have noticed know that this thread is a parody of this thread
I hate you, now I have to read the original (that I had missed) when I felt quite at ease treating the parody like a serious thread, thus providing further lulz for those in the know.
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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by Robert_S » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:42 am

I said that for the benefit of our newer members. By now you should have learned to assume that as time progresses and the forum matures, the probability of any thread new thread here being a parody is steadily approaching 1.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by mistermack » Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:45 pm

Generally I like Dawkins.
The media will always go to SOMEONE for the atheist viewpoint, and Dawkins is the best man for that job. He KNOWS what he's talking about, he doesn't go for the brash headline, and he's quite entertaining.
He's not going to make atheism look stupid.

I wouldn't want a knighthood myself, but you can't really criticise people for having a different point of view. Plenty of good people have accepted one. And it would give him gravitas in the US, where they are much more impressed by that stuff, so you could hardly blame him.

I don't like what happened to his forum, it was the best, and now it's shite. But plans don't always go how you hope they will.
And I would certainly buy him a drink. He's got a sense of humour, and doesn't seem to be full of himself.

All in all, he is a very much a plus for the atheist point of view.

Does he resent other atheists? I've seen no sign of that. (still).
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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by dj357 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:38 pm

Is it just me or is Dawkins denigrating the supposed honour of Knighthood in the rest of his comment? He calls the Queen, the one who would be bestowing the supposed honour upon him, a glorified rubber stamp. That doesn't sound like he's super motivated towards it to the point that he would be insensitive to the vagaries of the atheist community.
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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by cowiz » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:41 pm

This is the best parody thread evar on Ratz. Laid a nice trap and I nearly fell headlong into it.

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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by Hermit » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:26 pm

dj357 wrote:Is it just me or is Dawkins denigrating the supposed honour of Knighthood in the rest of his comment? He calls the Queen, the one who would be bestowing the supposed honour upon him, a glorified rubber stamp. That doesn't sound like he's super motivated towards it to the point that he would be insensitive to the vagaries of the atheist community.
It's just you. Dawkins wants the gong despite his opposition to the monarchy. Calling Liz a rubber stamp is his way of saying that it's OK for her to give him the gong anyway. If you look at his dozen or so doctorates honoris causa, that he has amassed so far, it should become quite obvious what a keen collector of honorific titles he is.
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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by dj357 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:41 pm

Having that many doctorates doesn't scream to me to have the motivation that you seem to attribute to him it merely indicates that he is highly active in the scientific and academic community. Would you expect the man who originated a scientific theory that has gained worldwide acceptance and been taught in universities since it's inception to have no doctorates or awards...?
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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by lordpasternack » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:22 am

DJ - To my knowledge, Richard Dawkins came up with precious little of the scientific ideas that he's famous for writing about and communicating. The Selfish Gene, for instance, was based pretty much totally on the work of William D Hamilton. Nor did he come up with the idea of memes, or anything else... He just packaged and communicated popular science, and his take on evolutionary biology, very well.
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Re: Does Richard Dawkins resent the majority of atheists?

Post by Robert_S » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:53 am

lordpasternack wrote:DJ - To my knowledge, Richard Dawkins came up with precious little of the scientific ideas that he's famous for writing about and communicating. The Selfish Gene, for instance, was based pretty much totally on the work of William D Hamilton. Nor did he come up with the idea of memes, or anything else... He just packaged and communicated popular science, and his take on evolutionary biology, very well.
I did not know that. I thought he came up with the "gene's eye view".
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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