The atheist "A" symbol

[hadespussercats]

Atheism isn't a zero stance. If it was, you'd all shut the fuck up and say nothing. But as it is, you preach your faith with as much zeal as those who you claim to be so different from.

Yawn. Fail.

Dreadlocks are not a style of hat.

Hey, I made hats out of dreadlocks!

( This is literally true. Working in theatre is weird.)

[hadespussercats]

Atheism isn't a zero stance. If it was, you'd all shut the fuck up and say nothing. But as it is, you preach your faith with as much zeal as those who you claim to be so different from.

I'm zealously preaching a viewpoint? Or do you mean Dawkins? We're not clones, you know.

Or is it that shutting-the-fuck-up silence is the only other option to preaching zealously? Do you think there's only two types of people in this world?

You're zealously preaching your religion. You're clones.

You seem pretty zealous yourself, you clone.

[Chuck Jones]

Atheism isn't a zero stance. If it was, you'd all shut the fuck up and say nothing. But as it is, you preach your faith with as much zeal as those who you claim to be so different from.

I'm zealously preaching a viewpoint? Or do you mean Dawkins? We're not clones, you know.

Or is it that shutting-the-fuck-up silence is the only other option to preaching zealously? Do you think there's only two types of people in this world?

You're zealously preaching your religion. You're clones.

You seem pretty zealous yourself, you clone.

No, you seem zealous.

[hadespussercats]

Nuh-uh! YOU do!

[Coito ergo sum]

I like the A symbol. It signifies the atheist faith, and warns us all who we're dealing with. But sometimes you can't see it from a distance. Maybe there should be some kind of brightly coloured background to put it on, some kind of distinguishable shape.

Yawn - there you go again...

Atheism is not a "faith." Atheism is the absence of faith. Nonbelief in gods is as much a "faith" as not believing in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy.

If you flip a coin, you don't get nothing, you get the other side of the coin. Atheism is faith in a godless universe.

It isn't "faith" in a godless universe, nor is it the other side of the coin.

Atheism is not something people believe in without proof or reason, it's a lack of belief because of a lack of proof or reason. Moreover it has nothing to do with "trusting" in there being a godless universe, or having confidence in a godless universe. It's just a lack of belief in gods.

I don't have "faith" that there is no Santa Claus. Same thing with gods.

P.S. - whenever a theist makes this "atheists have just as much faith as we do" argument, it's an implicit acknowledgement on the part of the theist that faith is a stupid thing to base belief on. They want to sort of bring down atheism to the theist level, suggesting that "atheism is just a religion too!" and "atheism is just based on faith too!" If faith is so awesome, then wouldn't it be a GOOD thing that we have faith in atheism? Why do you say it like it it's a slam on atheism?

[Coito ergo sum]

Atheism isn't a zero stance. If it was, you'd all shut the fuck up and say nothing. But as it is, you preach your faith with as much zeal as those who you claim to be so different from.

I'm zealously preaching a viewpoint? Or do you mean Dawkins? We're not clones, you know.

Or is it that shutting-the-fuck-up silence is the only other option to preaching zealously? Do you think there's only two types of people in this world?

You're zealously preaching your religion. You're clones.

There you go again...you say it as if you think it's a bad thing...

...if atheism is a religion, and we believe it on faith, then shouldn't you be patting us on the back? After all, that is what you do. Why would you argue for your faith as if it's a good thing, but point to us and say that what we think is nonsense because you think it's faith or religion too?

[Chuck Jones]

Nuh-uh! YOU do!

No, you do.

[hadespussercats]

Nuh-uh! YOU do!

No, you do.

Oh NO you di'int!

[Chuck Jones]

CES :

Atheism is a faith. When I say that atheism is a faith, it's an explicit acknowledgement that it's a faith like any other. It's not stupid (those are your words, not mine), it's just that it's a faith.




hadespussy :

I did. I so did.

[hadespussercats]

Wow. You got me. (retires cursing to examine hellhole.)

[Chuck Jones]

I certainly did.

[lordpasternack]

THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

Chuck Jones is a Poe, a satirist and a complete farcical and absurd piss-taker, to the point of trolling, but almost benignly so. He is self-evidently an atheist himself, which you notice the minute you pause to see his posts through that light. For heaven's sake don't rise to his piss-taking, except to poke fun back, as others already do.

Thank you for your attention. I now return you to your scheduled thread.

[Robert_S]

* Refer atheism as a religion and a belief. This will automatically enrage atheists.
* If religion is the source of all evil, then why was it a theist who invented the scientific method? (Bonus points if you reveal the theist was a crazy Muslim scientist)
* "Many mathematicians and scientists in the 18-19th century believe in God."
* "Atheists help spread AIDS because they approve same-sex marriage"
* "Prove God doesn't exist"
* "It was an atheist that caused World War I that lead to World War II, the Arab-Israeli War, the Cold War, the Global War on Terror and the rise of People's Republic of China... just ask Gavrilo Princip's religion."
* "Theist people kill more than a million people in a span of centuries, Atheist people kill more than a million faster, in a span of years if not months"
* "Invite them for a session with an Ouija Board"
* "It's okay, if I were you I'd be pretty mad at God, too."
* "If evolution is true, why are there still monkeys?" (This one in particular will tell you whether or not you have found the rare breed of atheist that isn't completely retarded, since most educated people can answer it.)
* Bring up the fact that evolution and the Big Bang theory are still just theories with plenty of flaws
* Pretend to be really surprised and full of pity when the atheist mentions his lack of faith.
* Complain about the bias against intelligent design.
* "God did it...your science is NOTHING without God."
* "Science is ALWAYS based on faith because you assume that logic and mathematics are true, even though they're unprovable."
* Tell them "Jesus Loves them" and for extra lulz give them a hug and a bible and see how they react
* Or just hug them. They HATE that.
* "Hitler was an atheist."
* "Stalin was an atheist." Bonus points if you mention to them about the Holodomor (Stalin's Holocaust).
* Point out that their posts sound like evangelical preachers' rants, including their tone, intensity, rhythm and measure.
* Ask them to explain the manner in which subjective experience arises from brain tissue. Inevitably, they will break down and say that consciousness doesn't exist. At this point you can just start laughing hysterically.
* "I'll pray for you."
* "Jesus said: Cast not pearls before swine."
* "What up faith-cripples!" (Best to say when entering one of their forums)
* "What makes moral relativism correct?"
* "Atheists are never moral because they do not believe in God," followed up by "Morals are God-given not man-made."
* Suggest that if you were down and out in Calcutta, you'd much rather see Mother Teresa than Christopher Hitchens.
* If all else fails, Goatse, pain and fifty Jesus posts never go amiss alongside with ALLAH AKBAR!!!
* Have feelings.
* The way Christians get all of their arguments from the Bible, atheists get all of their arguments from The God Delusion. So saying something along the lines of "Maybe if you formed your own opinions once in a while, instead of parroting everything Dawkins spits out of his sinful mouth, you could truly see the glory of God!" is always worth a good try.
* Atheists do not really hate religion just christfags. Tell them you are a Buddhist. If they start to attack your religion agree with them via this copy pasta "Yes I see how that could be, the teachings of Buddha taught me to be very open minded. I accept your argument, but Buddha was still right." When they find a person they can't argue with they reach a state similar to an advanced stage of rabies. Kick back and watch the lulz.
* Give them an analogy (like this one): "Trying to disprove God with our narrow knowledge of physics is like being given only a hammer to build a house. Every problem looks like a nail".
* Tell them to take the Atheist Challenge. As the atheist does not believe in anything science cannot prove, ask him to prove that the universe did not pop into being 5 seconds ago with the appearance of age, then to call his girlfriend and tell her that love is an illusion caused by chemical reactions. Post-conversational survival is a passing grade.
* Point out that dark matter and dark energy, by their very nature, are impossible to detect and can only be hypothesized by secondary evidence. Just like God. Science believes in something it can't prove!
* Apparently, atheism has its own definition of free speech: When I attack you, it's just criticism. When you attack me, you are practicing RELIGIOUS OPPRESSION AAAARGGH THE EVIL THEOCRACY!!!
* Copy/paste info from conservapedia's article on atheism. (Such as atheists donate less to charities than christians).
* Tell them they're going to hell because God hates fags
* Point out that Friedrich Nietzche was in love with his sister, but gave up and started taking it in the ass because he couldn't get laid (srsly [1])
* Imply that atheism is a form of liberalism. (refer to evolution as liberal,this always makes them rage)
* Tell them that trying to disprove God within the confines of physics is impossible.
* Ask them where all the delicious matter came from in order for the big bang to start.
* This is the most important thing, so pay attention! Sometimes you will get a smart Atheist that will rebuttal with points that actually make some sort of sense. (Atheists rarely make sense. Your chances of finding one that does not spew the same garbage as his fellow atheists are scarcer than your chances of finding blue tiberium.) Instead of attempting to rebuttal with sense, you can do one of two things. 1)Tell him he's wrong and pretend like you're winning the "debate" 2)Tell him he's wrong and give another case for God's existence. Get him to the point where he feels he must combat your rebuttal by saying if he can't rebuttal it, you're winning. Rinse and Repeat.
* Mention that atheism and satanism are the same thing

One down, many many many more to go. Somebody has their work cut out for them.

[charlou]

I like the A symbol. It signifies the atheist faith, and warns us all who we're dealing with. But sometimes you can't see it from a distance. Maybe there should be some kind of brightly coloured background to put it on, some kind of distinguishable shape.

A big hairy twat?

A gigantic syphilitic phallus?

Let's not let the female genitalia hog all the glory here.

[Coito ergo sum]

CES :

Atheism is a faith. When I say that atheism is a faith, it's an explicit acknowledgement that it's a faith like any other. It's not stupid (those are your words, not mine), it's just that it's a faith.

But it isn't, unless you are changing the common English usage or definition of the word "Faith."

Faith:

1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3. belief in god or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4. belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5. a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
6. the obligation of loyalty or fidelity to a person, promise, engagement, etc.: Failure to appear would be breaking faith.
7. the observance of this obligation; fidelity to one's promise, oath, allegiance, etc.: He was the only one who proved his faith during our recent troubles.
8. Christian Theology . the trust in God and in His promises as made through Christ and the Scriptures by which humans are justified or saved.

Under which definition is atheism a "faith?" Please provide an explanation. On its face, none of the above common English usages apply to atheism at all.