NFL star 'should have been executed': anaylst
December 30, 2010 - 3:29PM
Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson.
Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson. Photo: AP
A commentator on US news network Fox News has sparked controversy after saying that an NFL quarterback "should have been executed" for his role in the killing of dogs.
I.... err... agree with fox.
I.... err... agree with fox.
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Vick also hopes to own a dog again once that ban is lifted, to help in the "rehabilitation" process. Of course that makes as much sense as giving a child to a pedophile.
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I... err... am not surprised.Trolldor wrote:I.... err... agree with fox.
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Trolldor wrote:http://www.smh.com.au/sport/nfl-star-sh ... 19awu.html
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December 30, 2010 - 3:29PM
Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson.
Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson. Photo: AP
A commentator on US news network Fox News has sparked controversy after saying that an NFL quarterback "should have been executed" for his role in the killing of dogs.[/youtube]
I wouldn't mind seeing a dog murderer get a proportional retaliation. But the time to argue that was at the guy's sentencing. This guy's just bitching because President Obama made a phone call about a decision that had already been reached. Also, Jesus said forgive. He didn't say forgive when you aren't actually pissed off, offended, and /or deeply enraged at the cruelty and stupidity of our fellow homo sapiens. If Tucker Carlson cannot handle the core values of Christianity, he should not claim to be a Christian.Tucker Carlson. wrote:I'm a Christian. I've made mistakes myself. I believe fervently in second chances," Carlson said.
"But Michael Vick killed dogs, and he did it in a heartless and cruel way. And I think, personally, he should have been executed for that. He wasn't, but the idea that the president of the United States would be getting behind someone who murdered dogs?"
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I'm not a Christian , Nor a President , I don't watch Fox .. Vick should never see daylight again.A 5'x5' cage in a cellar and a diet of dog kibble for the rest of this fuckers life
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Budget brand dog kibble!Feck wrote:I'm not a Christian , Nor a President , I don't watch Fox .. Vick should never see daylight again.A 5'x5' cage in a cellar and a diet of dog kibble for the rest of this fuckers life
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An interesting fact is that it has been repeatedly shown that audiences react much worse to the death of an animal than to the death of a person in movies. A slaughtered person in a slasher film often elicits a yawn, no matter how gory. A dead dog earns much worse reactions.
It has been suggested this applies in real life as well. This is most likely because people are irrational.
It has been suggested this applies in real life as well. This is most likely because people are irrational.
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GreyICE wrote:An interesting fact is that it has been repeatedly shown that audiences react much worse to the death of an animal than to the death of a person in movies. A slaughtered person in a slasher film often elicits a yawn, no matter how gory. A dead dog earns much worse reactions.
It has been suggested this applies in real life as well. This is most likely because people are irrational.
Or that dogs are better loved than people .Not irrational IMHO
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Feck wrote:GreyICE wrote:An interesting fact is that it has been repeatedly shown that audiences react much worse to the death of an animal than to the death of a person in movies. A slaughtered person in a slasher film often elicits a yawn, no matter how gory. A dead dog earns much worse reactions.
It has been suggested this applies in real life as well. This is most likely because people are irrational.
Or that dogs are better loved than people .Not irrational IMHO
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*snork* Does anyone really think he would've said that had it been a white player?
My cynicism says, "No".
My cynicism says, "No".
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Jynx wrote:*snork* Does anyone really think he would've said that had it been a white player?
My cynicism says, "No".
No offense to anyone, but why do people reserve this outrage just for dogs? I'm pretty sure I've heard everyone here talk about eating meat.
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We have had similar discussions before. I'm sure it has to do with the depth of the emotional relationships that dog (and cat) owners develop with their particular animal friend; and none the worse an argument from that...maiforpeace wrote:Jynx wrote:*snork* Does anyone really think he would've said that had it been a white player?
My cynicism says, "No".
No offense to anyone, but why do people reserve this outrage just for dogs? I'm pretty sure I've heard everyone here talk about eating meat.
As to the black/white aspect, I'll leave that for people in the States to judge...
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Well I have no emotional relationship with dogs or cats having never owned any or have any intention of ever doing so. I think killing a human over killing a dog is completely crazy, to be honest. I mean, if I found a dead human I'd be deeply shocked and would call the guards straight away. If I found a dead dog I'd simply leave it were it is, or if it's out on the road I might get a shovel and toss it into a ditch. I'm sorry, but I don't see animals on any type of level that I see humans.
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One day, a little puppy or little kitten will sneak under your guard, and then we shall see...Jynx wrote:Well I have no emotional relationship with dogs or cats having never owned any or have any intention of ever doing so. I think killing a human over killing a dog is completely crazy, to be honest. I mean, if I found a dead human I'd be deeply shocked and would call the guards straight away. If I found a dead dog I'd simply leave it were it is, or if it's out on the road I might get a shovel and toss it into a ditch. I'm sorry, but I don't see animals on any type of level that I see humans.
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And a good thing that is too. Humans are much more horrid.Jynx wrote:Well I have no emotional relationship with dogs or cats having never owned any or have any intention of ever doing so. I think killing a human over killing a dog is completely crazy, to be honest. I mean, if I found a dead human I'd be deeply shocked and would call the guards straight away. If I found a dead dog I'd simply leave it were it is, or if it's out on the road I might get a shovel and toss it into a ditch. I'm sorry, but I don't see animals on any type of level that I see humans.
For starters they very deliberately put your life in danger to skip ahead one car space and get to the next red light two seconds faster.
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