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Re: Civilians are legitimate targets

Post by sandinista » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:40 pm

Ian wrote:
sandinista wrote:I'm not sure what most americans think of the kids and civilians murdered by US bombs either.
I'll tell you exactly what Americans think of them: they're not legitimate targets.
some americans perhaps, but obviously not the american government.
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Post by sandinista » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:57 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:Venom.
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Post by sandinista » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:08 pm

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Re: Civilians are legitimate targets

Post by Gawd » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:33 pm

Ian wrote:
Gawd wrote:
Ian wrote: By Gawd's reasoning, any US citizen who had the nerve to file a tax return was essentially a war criminal and thus made themselves a legitimate target on 9/11, and they deserved what they got. I'm not sure what he thinks about the kids and non-Americans who got killed that day.
Collateral damage? That's the reason you always hear from US killers.
Who's the collateral damage? Only the kids and foreigners, or the civilians inside the buildings as well?

*Turning on my Psycho Geiger Counter as I await Gawd's response*
Most of the people in the 9/11 buildings were legitimate targets because they are part of the economic engine and companies that fuel the US forces. Whereas on the other hand, US forces fequently bomb schools and farmer villages.

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Gawd wrote:
Ian wrote:
Gawd wrote:
Ian wrote: By Gawd's reasoning, any US citizen who had the nerve to file a tax return was essentially a war criminal and thus made themselves a legitimate target on 9/11, and they deserved what they got. I'm not sure what he thinks about the kids and non-Americans who got killed that day.
Collateral damage? That's the reason you always hear from US killers.
Who's the collateral damage? Only the kids and foreigners, or the civilians inside the buildings as well?

*Turning on my Psycho Geiger Counter as I await Gawd's response*
Most of the people in the 9/11 buildings were legitimate targets because they are part of the economic engine and companies that fuel the US forces. Whereas on the other hand, US forces fequently bomb schools and farmer villages.
I'm glad you post stuff like that. It makes me smile.
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Re: Civilians are legitimate targets

Post by Santa_Claus » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:12 pm

Gawd wrote: Most of the people in the 9/11 buildings were legitimate targets because they are part of the economic engine and companies that fuel the US forces.
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Re: Civilians are legitimate targets

Post by sandinista » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:22 pm

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Gawd wrote: Most of the people in the 9/11 buildings were legitimate targets because they are part of the economic engine and companies that fuel the US forces.
+1
true, as legitimate as any targets the americans hit in Afghanistan or Iraq at least.
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Re: Civilians are legitimate targets

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:23 pm

So, you prefer Target over Wal-mart?
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Re: Civilians are legitimate targets

Post by Ian » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:59 pm

Gawd wrote:
Ian wrote:
Gawd wrote:
Ian wrote: By Gawd's reasoning, any US citizen who had the nerve to file a tax return was essentially a war criminal and thus made themselves a legitimate target on 9/11, and they deserved what they got. I'm not sure what he thinks about the kids and non-Americans who got killed that day.
Collateral damage? That's the reason you always hear from US killers.
Who's the collateral damage? Only the kids and foreigners, or the civilians inside the buildings as well?

*Turning on my Psycho Geiger Counter as I await Gawd's response*
Most of the people in the 9/11 buildings were legitimate targets because they are part of the economic engine and companies that fuel the US forces. Whereas on the other hand, US forces fequently bomb schools and farmer villages.
No response from me needed; your post says it all. Thank you, Gawd.

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Re: Civilians are legitimate targets

Post by sandinista » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:03 pm

of course, now we have ian and zilla saying nothing...again. An actual counter response, or, indeed, a thought, would be a step in the right direction. I know, a little too much to ask, but your non-responses only go to prove what is being pointed out; that the attack on the US was just as legitimate as the US attacks on other countries. Be it bombs, planes, missiles, IED's, helicopters, it's all terrorism and all directed at civilians.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:16 pm

sandinista wrote:of course, now we have ian and zilla saying nothing...again. An actual counter response, or, indeed, a thought, would be a step in the right direction. I know, a little too much to ask, but your non-responses only go to prove what is being pointed out; that the attack on the US was just as legitimate as the US attacks on other countries. Be it bombs, planes, missiles, IED's, helicopters, it's all terrorism and all directed at civilians.
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Re: Civilians are legitimate targets

Post by Ian » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:25 pm

Gawd and sandi - We've been saying nothing because that's what is warranted.

But if I need to spell it out... Gawd doesn't seem to understand the difference between collateral damage (yes, this is awful under any circumstances) and deliberate targeting. By his logic, a deliberate genocide of a hundred million American taxpayers would be a "legitimate target". Or, if someone who hated the US decided to break into my house and cut my wife's throat, she'd be a "legitimate target" because she pays her taxes. And of course, sandi jumps to his defense, trying to blur the lines between deliberate targeting and other casualties, as if there's no such thing as intentions. You guys aren't doing much to lower your ratings on the Sociopath-O-meter.
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Re: Civilians are legitimate targets

Post by Gawd » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:25 pm

Ian, I know this won't go through your Homeland Insecurity anal probes, but as long as Americans see themselves as separate from any wars they start, then you will always be wondering why there is so much "terrorism". How about we fight a war in New York City for a change? Then, we could bomb ALL the buildings there and show the Americans what they really do over seas.

Have you ever wondered why all those "terrorists" just don't mow down some schools full of children? It'd be much easier and they could have killed way more people. The reason is that all the 9/11 targets were essential to the American war mongering. The people in those buildings were and are legitimate targets.

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