Carnivale Game Thread

[charlou]

I mean I was reading about lila and lodz being lovers .. and agree it's likely there's a lodz and the mafia lovers thing may come into play.

[charlou]

That's if higgs really is Lila .. I'm still very skeptical about her character claim.

[Magicziggy]

That's if higgs really is Lila .. I'm still very skeptical about her character claim.

So am I.

For me it's DP or Higgs.

[gib]

hmmm ... gib, why do you think so?

Okay, higgs, my vote on you and the wifom comment was to apply pressure to see how you'd react .. Apart from the sloppy mix-up, I think your response may be genuine so benefit of the doubt for now.

unvote higgs

higgs is not out of the woods for me .. a scum team can easily orchestrate a prostitute visit to their own team ... and Callan and gib are high on my scum list.

Denny ... hmmm .. I'm going to search his posts ... he's very good at slipping under the radar with me ...

Ani said that he believed from his own role that Mantis was a recruiter. Mantis is dead which is why i'm saying talk of recruiting is now a red herring. There is no other evidence for recruiting going on.

Now what's this talk of there not being a NK one night? I seem to be missing something here. Is it because the last NK was connected to a 'Colt' and that's some symbol for a vig kill? It's really important that i understand this.

Why do we assume the blocker is on the scum team? I don't think that's at all certain.

[Callan]

Very well.
My thoughts - wrong as usual, no doubt.
I think DP and irre are scum and that irre at least has been so from the start.
Charlou indicated on Day One that her posting restriction could be lifted if a certain circumstance arose - she didn't know what that circumstance was. I reckon it was being recruited that lifted the posting restriction.
higgs is a mystery to me.
Gib - I still hope he's town. The fact that DP voted for him gives me more hope for that.
Between those who say my voting is scummy and those who say my not voting is scummy, I can't fucking win either way.

So I have 2 votes on me and so does DP -
Vote DP for two very sound reasons a) I think he's scum and b) to save my own (town) neck
If those aren't good reasons, then I'm at a loss as to what might be better ones.
And if voting for myself would be a more pro-town thing to do today, then I'm sure someone will be kind enough to let me know, and I'll change my vote accordingly. My only interest at this point is to see town win.

[gib]

Very well.
My thoughts - wrong as usual, no doubt.
I think DP and irre are scum and that irre at least has been so from the start.
Charlou indicated on Day One that her posting restriction could be lifted if a certain circumstance arose - she didn't know what that circumstance was. I reckon it was being recruited that lifted the posting restriction.
higgs is a mystery to me.
Gib - I still hope he's town. The fact that DP voted for him gives me more hope for that.
Between those who say my voting is scummy and those who say my not voting is scummy, I can't fucking win either way.

So I have 2 votes on me and so does DP -
Vote DP for two very sound reasons a) I think he's scum and b) to save my own (town) neck
If those aren't good reasons, then I'm at a loss as to what might be better ones.
And if voting for myself would be a more pro-town thing to do today, then I'm sure someone will be kind enough to let me know, and I'll change my vote accordingly. My only interest at this point is to see town win.

Callan if if it comes to a choice between you and DP i will vote DP. I've already said i don't know why some peope are calling you scummy (and i'm still waiting for a good answer).

But if we think there wasn't a NK last night and we know Higgs was blocked then really we should be voting Higgs.

[charlou]

gib, the thing with the higgs block is that she volunteered that information .. I don't think she'd do that if she'd been prevented from making a nightkill.

Charlou indicated on Day One that her posting restriction could be lifted if a certain circumstance arose - she didn't know what that circumstance was. I reckon it was being recruited that lifted the posting restriction.

No, it was the death of Zigmen/Sadie .. did you miss that?


I'm not surprised by your self-preserving vote.

[gib]

gib, the thing with the higgs block is that she volunteered that information .. I don't think she'd do that if she'd been prevented from making a nightkill.

Charlou indicated on Day One that her posting restriction could be lifted if a certain circumstance arose - she didn't know what that circumstance was. I reckon it was being recruited that lifted the posting restriction.

No, it was the death of Zigmen/Sadie .. did you miss that?


I'm not surprised by your self-preserving vote.

If it was a town blocker then they would be suspicious that higgs said nothing the next day.

[charlou]

gib, the thing with the higgs block is that she volunteered that information .. I don't think she'd do that if she'd been prevented from making a nightkill.

Charlou indicated on Day One that her posting restriction could be lifted if a certain circumstance arose - she didn't know what that circumstance was. I reckon it was being recruited that lifted the posting restriction.

No, it was the death of Zigmen/Sadie .. did you miss that?


I'm not surprised by your self-preserving vote.

If it was a town blocker then they would be suspicious that higgs said nothing the next day.

Good point .. I keep think of this as a scum prostitute though .. the amorous angle ... though, that doesn't necessarily mean the blocker is scum, it just seems more likely. In this game, town had a seer and a telepathic seer, and a vig seems likely (though could be an SK), so it seems to me that scum should have some kind of balancing special? Or is/was the recruitment thing enough?

[gib]

Combine that with the crap about her kid being on the laptop,and the weird drunkpost and i am going to

Vote Higgs

[gib]

Anyone got an accurate vote count?

[The Curious Squid]

It's definitely a scum prostitute, it visited Mono and I, Mono's been killed and cleared as town and although I have no way of proving it to you lot without being lynched, I'm town. Look through the day 2 thread and you'll see the discussion on it, as well as the comments about how scum might lie about the visit to appear town from then on. For me that puts Higgs in a 50/50 position for scum but I'm still uncertain.

I really don't suspect Gib, I agree with almost everything (s)he has posted and was weary at first but their comments seem like genuine scum hunting to me.

Callan is digging a hole for herself too after the accusations but I still think that Ghat/DP is scum due to the fact that if Ghat wanted to leave the game he could have just kept quiet since he was dead set for being lynched until he asked for the sub. To me it looks like he realised he fucked up and the latest post of his was trying to cover for DP.

Irre's attitude to Charlou after her makes me thing she's town. I'm still wary of Charlou but edging towards town with her too.

Everyone else is too hard to read for me now.

[gib]

Squid, it is not "definitely a scum prostitute".

[charlou]

Squid, it could have been a town blocker (the alternative) that had visited you .. as town they're only guessing who would be a good choice for a block.

[The Curious Squid]

Ok, thinking about it, you're right. I'd say that it's a better chance of being one though.

Scum know who other scum are and so they wouldn't visit one of their own, if it was a town one then chances are that it could have picked two town by chance (or 3 if Higgs is telling the truth). Mono was definitely town, we know that. and if you look at my posts from day 1 I mention the PM (though not it's exact contents) before I realise what it was.