Carnivale Game Thread

[charlou]

I think what it might come down to for me is that higgs was blocked on a night that we had no night kill. I'm leaning towards the mono kill being the vig, which means a block is the most likely reason for a botched kill.

Is there any reason to believe there's a vig and not an SK?

[Magicziggy]

I've only seen Callan play in the ill fated godkill game when she was scum.
There's nothing in her play that I think is scummy.
This position on the bw thing is bullshit. I will vote whenever, whatever.
I don't mind being first, last or third. It simply is not something I consider.
Of far more importance is whether the eventual lynch was close or a runaway.

Yesterday's was a runaway. Scum votes could be anywhere or nowhere on the bw.

I see nothing scummy and I'm calling it, that's all.
Just like Higgs. I couldn't see it because I need these things pointed out.

[Magicziggy]

Two indies AND recruitment?
Unlikely.

Anyone want to guess whether the recruitment thing IS red herring.

[Uselesstwit]

I think what it might come down to for me is that higgs was blocked on a night that we had no night kill. I'm leaning towards the mono kill being the vig, which means a block is the most likely reason for a botched kill.

Is there any reason to believe there's a vig and not an SK?

not anything other than I think town would have a vig. we know that scum have the ability to recruit, unless ani was lying out his ass which since he's town lets hope not, plus they have a night kill ability. if it were an sk instead of a vig it would mean that we would lose 2 town a night and maybe three depending on how the recruit works. that would be unbalancing to me. so I think it's scum with the recruit and kill against town with lynch and vig. the blocker I'm still not sure of but with a missing kill I'd bet he's town.

[Uselesstwit]

Two indies AND recruitment?
Unlikely.

Anyone want to guess whether the recruitment thing IS red herring.

Like I said just now magic, ani was town and gave us the hint about there being a recruitment. If he was just playing games I say we lynch him first thing next game.

[higgs2]

I'm not scum. I was however visited by someone very sexy, I assume the scum prostitute. Same thing as the others.

I'm surprised about the mason thing, I thought it was lovebirds who were joined so that one died if the other did. I haven't seen that with masons. I think we cannot make any assumptions with this game, and i have been . Abut the "traitorous enabler" (still don't get that), about charlous being part of a mason group. About ghat's behavior being role connected and not ghat connected. On the other hand, UT might be right about the recruitment thing.

UT is right about recruiters having restrictions. Sometimes the restriction is that it takes 2 nights. If anyone feels weird or dizzy or whatever you might be being recruited. If you really want to help town, speak up. Sometimes they have to choose between a scum kill or a recruit. And yeah, like UT says sometimes(often) they cannot recruit specials. And if they can the special usually cannot keep their power.

chalou you saidnsomethingabout mebringingp mantis, and that I kept saying you were part of a mason group. Here yo can see (if you are paying attention and not just trolley tracking me or pissed that I didn't like you tl;dr "summary") that what I was saying is that we can't make assumptions. About you being a mason, about whatever a traitor/enabler is. The actual masons I mentioned were actual masons.

You are really twisting what I say to make a case against me. Maybe becuase you are scum or maybe because you are dum. lol.

[charlou]

DP, on the death of mono and Ani, oblivion revealed this:

Mononoke and Animavore were Alexandra and Caladonia Potter, conjoined twin acrobats and carnie masons who would both die if one of them were killed or recruited.

Two indies AND recruitment?
Unlikely.

Maybe, but not impossible.

Anyone want to guess whether the recruitment thing IS red herring.

Here's the list of who's left in play:

higgs2
DennyB
Charlou
Ghat/Don't Panic
gib
Callan
Uselesstwit
Irre
MZ
The Curious Squid

If scum are recruiting every night and haven't reached parity (assuming that's their win condition as usual) they've either had some misses, or they started the game low on numbers, both of which are possible, particularly the misses thing if there are restrictions. I tend to think the recruitment aspect if it exists is somehow limited, or just a red herring.

[higgs2]

MZ, I voted for Mort too.

Here's why I'm voting for higgs:

I'm not scum. I was however visited by someone very sexy, I assume the scum prostitute. Same thing as the others.

I'm surprised about the mason thing, I thought it was lovebirds who were joined so that one died if the other did. I haven't seen that with masons. I think we cannot make any assumptions with this game, and i have been . Abut the "traitorous enabler" (still don't get that), about charlous being part of a mason group. About ghat's behavior being role connected and not ghat connected. On the other hand, UT might be right about the recruitment thing.

UT is right about recruiters having restrictions. Sometimes the restriction is that it takes 2 nights. If anyone feels weird or dizzy or whatever you might be being recruited. If you really want to help town, speak up. Sometimes they have to choose between a scum kill or a recruit. And yeah, like UT says sometimes(often) they cannot recruit specials. And if they can the special usually cannot keep their power.

I've said a couple of times, I'm not part of a mason group.

And why wouldn't masons include another aspect of character/role play? It makes sense that the conjoined twins would be able to communicate.

UT, I'm not playing differently that I know of. I just haven't told anyone off in strong terms. I get stressed when the game rules are confusing or vague or unevenly enforced. So far that has not been a problem so I'm p. calm.

You are playing differently because you're not being aggressive ... all very reasonable (I recall an early game I played with you where you played like this and were scum ... and went on to win), all the while creating wifom about masons, recruitments and Ghat's meltdown.

Again, please note that I said that before you said that about not being masons. You guys don't know my scum game at all. Remember, I was scum last game too. When I was what you considered aggressive.

[higgs2]

I'm not scum. I was however visited by someone very sexy, I assume the scum prostitute. Same thing as the others.

I'm surprised about the mason thing, I thought it was lovebirds who were joined so that one died if the other did. I haven't seen that with masons. I think we cannot make any assumptions with this game, and i have been . Abut the "traitorous enabler" (still don't get that), about charlous being part of a mason group. About ghat's behavior being role connected and not ghat connected. On the other hand, UT might be right about the recruitment thing.

UT is right about recruiters having restrictions. Sometimes the restriction is that it takes 2 nights. If anyone feels weird or dizzy or whatever you might be being recruited. If you really want to help town, speak up. Sometimes they have to choose between a scum kill or a recruit. And yeah, like UT says sometimes(often) they cannot recruit specials. And if they can the special usually cannot keep their power.

chalou you saidnsomethingabout mebringingp mantis, and that I kept saying you were part of a mason group. Here yo can see (if you are paying attention and not just trolley tracking me or pissed that I didn't like you tl;dr "summary") that what I was saying is that we can't make assumptions. About you being a mason, about whatever a traitor/enabler is. The actual masons I mentioned were actual masons.

You are really twisting what I say to make a case against me. Maybe becuase you are scum or maybe because you are dum. lol.

oh crap I keep getting you and irre mixed up. Forget what I said about the "summary"

[Magicziggy]

UT, I'm not talk about what Ani said, but what Oblivion said in today's OP.

"Mononoke and Animavore were Alexandra and Caladonia Potter, conjoined twin acrobats and carnie masons who would both die if one of them were killed or recruited."

This makes this game a recruitment game unless we think it's a red herring.

[charlou]

I'm not scum. I was however visited by someone very sexy, I assume the scum prostitute. Same thing as the others.

I'm surprised about the mason thing, I thought it was lovebirds who were joined so that one died if the other did. I haven't seen that with masons. I think we cannot make any assumptions with this game, and i have been . Abut the "traitorous enabler" (still don't get that), about charlous being part of a mason group. About ghat's behavior being role connected and not ghat connected. On the other hand, UT might be right about the recruitment thing.

UT is right about recruiters having restrictions. Sometimes the restriction is that it takes 2 nights. If anyone feels weird or dizzy or whatever you might be being recruited. If you really want to help town, speak up. Sometimes they have to choose between a scum kill or a recruit. And yeah, like UT says sometimes(often) they cannot recruit specials. And if they can the special usually cannot keep their power.

chalou you saidnsomethingabout mebringingp mantis, and that I kept saying you were part of a mason group. Here yo can see (if you are paying attention and not just trolley tracking me or pissed that I didn't like you tl;dr "summary") that what I was saying is that we can't make assumptions. About you being a mason, about whatever a traitor/enabler is. The actual masons I mentioned were actual masons.

You are really twisting what I say to make a case against me. Maybe becuase you are scum or maybe because you are dum. lol.

The summary you said was tl;dr was irre's not mine. I haven't said anything about you bringing up Mantis .. that was someone else too. I didn't say you 'kept saying' I'm part of a mason group, I just pointed out that I've said a couple of times that I'm not part of a Mason group.

This post of yours is really sloppy, higgs.

[Magicziggy]

I have to ask.

Wtf is tl;dr ?

[charlou]

UT, I'm not talk about what Ani said, but what Oblivion said in today's OP.

"Mononoke and Animavore were Alexandra and Caladonia Potter, conjoined twin acrobats and carnie masons who would both die if one of them were killed or recruited."

This makes this game a recruitment game unless we think it's a red herring.

Not sure why exactly, but I'm thinking it's not a red herring ... probably because including a red herring doesn't seem like something ob would do?

[Uselesstwit]

Why are people mudding the waters here. Oblivion makes some convoluted games but she doesn't post false info that would cause wifom. Seriously? magic and to an extent char, you think that ob faked a pm and an op that would only hurt town?

[Uselesstwit]

it means To Long; Didn't Read.