A Columbia political science professor has been charged with having a sexual relationship with his 24-year-old daughter, the Columbia Daily Spectator reports.
David Epstein, 46, was charged Thursday with one count of third-degree incest. Police told the Spectator that the relationship appeared consensual.
Epstein is currently on administrative leave.
According to the New York Daily News, Epstein and the woman had a three-year sexual relationship and often exchanged "twisted text messages."
The Spectator reports that Epstein is married to another Columbia political science professor, Sharyn O'Halloran, though a recent update to his Facebook page says he is single. The couple was featured in a 2008 Spectator article about professors who "bring love to work."
"Our complementary skills lead to a great partnership," O'Halloran told the Spectator.
One student described Epstein, who was teaching a class on game theory this semester, as a "very nice guy." Outside of his professorial duties, Epstein also blogged for this website, on topics ranging from torture to Sarah Palin.
Columbia Professor Charged With Incest
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David Epstein Incest Charges: Columbia Professor Charged With Sleeping With Daughter
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I always thought incest was a bit gross but I wasn't aware it was illegal.
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That should be the start, beginning and end of the matter.consensual
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It should, but it's not. What the article doesn't make clear is who is bringing these charges - so I am assuming it is the state that is doing so. I wonder if an organization like the ACLU would have the guts to defend this man?devogue wrote:That should be the start, beginning and end of the matter.consensual
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I would lock em both up. That is, if they really had only only been at it for the three years, but I wouldn't believe that for one minute.
I think Woody Allen should have been locked up. If you accept a child as a step-child, it should be classed as incest, because you are betraying a responsibility you took on as a parent.
You can make a case for excusing the younger partner, as growing up is a confusing time, but the elder one has no excuse. All you have to do is say no.
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I think Woody Allen should have been locked up. If you accept a child as a step-child, it should be classed as incest, because you are betraying a responsibility you took on as a parent.
You can make a case for excusing the younger partner, as growing up is a confusing time, but the elder one has no excuse. All you have to do is say no.
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Sitting on the fence again, TMH?mistermack wrote:I would lock em both up. That is, if they really had only only been at it for the three years, but I wouldn't believe that for one minute.
I think Woody Allen should have been locked up. If you accept a child as a step-child, it should be classed as incest, because you are betraying a responsibility you took on as a parent.
You can make a case for excusing the younger partner, as growing up is a confusing time, but the elder one has no excuse. All you have to do is say no.
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The concept of a victimless crime is fundamentally flawed. If there's no victim, why call it a crime? This sort of thing is a vestige of our Puritan ancestry.
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Why? This isn't even an adult step-daughter, it's the guy's daughter. If I was screwing my adult daughter, whether she figured it was consensual or not, I'd like to think there would be someone responsible enough to take me out back and shoot me, regardless of whether what I was doing was technically legal or not.devogue wrote:That should be the start, beginning and end of the matter.consensual
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The thought makes me throw up in my mouth but if it really started when they are adults I don't understand how the fuck it is anybodies business 
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That's not me XC, I would appreciate you don't associate such a backwards, authoritarian piece of faggotry with me ever.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Sitting on the fence again, TMH?mistermack wrote:I would lock em both up. That is, if they really had only only been at it for the three years, but I wouldn't believe that for one minute.
I think Woody Allen should have been locked up. If you accept a child as a step-child, it should be classed as incest, because you are betraying a responsibility you took on as a parent.
You can make a case for excusing the younger partner, as growing up is a confusing time, but the elder one has no excuse. All you have to do is say no.
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The Mad Hatter wrote:That's not me XC, I would appreciate you don't associate such a backwards, authoritarian piece of faggotry with me ever.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Sitting on the fence again, TMH?mistermack wrote:I would lock em both up. That is, if they really had only only been at it for the three years, but I wouldn't believe that for one minute.
I think Woody Allen should have been locked up. If you accept a child as a step-child, it should be classed as incest, because you are betraying a responsibility you took on as a parent.
You can make a case for excusing the younger partner, as growing up is a confusing time, but the elder one has no excuse. All you have to do is say no.
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Ian wrote:Why? This isn't even an adult step-daughter, it's the guy's daughter. If I was screwing my adult daughter, whether she figured it was consensual or not, I'd like to think there would be someone responsible enough to take me out back and shoot me, regardless of whether what I was doing was technically legal or not.devogue wrote:That should be the start, beginning and end of the matter.consensual
I feel the same way with regards to my own life and behavior (I have no offspring), but if it's truly consensual behavior between adults and there are no deformed offspring, then there's no victim. I'm just not ready to impose my personal mores on others when there's no victim. I couldn't imagine myself doing it with my own daughter, though.
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I agree that the concept disgusts me on a personal level, but I am with FBM on this. If it is consensual between two adults what business do I have interfering when there is no victim?
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A case could be made that the daughter constitutes something of a victim, even if she's over 18. But I'd agree that legal interference isn't necessarily warranted.ScienceRob wrote:I agree that the concept disgusts me on a personal level, but I am with FBM on this. If it is consensual between two adults what business do I have interfering when there is no victim?
Having said that, I'd also make a case that there are some actions that are monumentally immoral, even if they're not against a law.
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