Food for thought
Food for thought
In the USA, you can donate money to the KKK, neo-Nazis, neo-Jews, Sarah Palin, and any number of hatred based groups, but you are forbidden from donating to Wikileaks and the government is forcing all US companies to comply.
Re: Food for thought
No you are not forbidden to donate to wikileaks and no the Government is not forcing all US companies to comply.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."
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Oh yes you are forbidden. Read the news and see that the US government have "coerced" PayPal, Visa, MasterCard, and other banking type companies to shut down Wikileaks accounts immediately. Yet the KKK, neo-Nazis, Neo-Jews, and Sarah Palin are all allowed to receive donations.
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No they have not 'coerced' at all.
In fact, every news account I've read has companies acting of their own accord.
The SMH reported Paypal as having acted on a letter sent to Wikileaks by The Government, that the US Government hadn't contacted Paypal at all.
In fact, every news account I've read has companies acting of their own accord.
The SMH reported Paypal as having acted on a letter sent to Wikileaks by The Government, that the US Government hadn't contacted Paypal at all.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."
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You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic.
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This is the wrong forum for bluffing
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Re: Food for thought
Sure, and AIPAC is racially neutral.The Mad Hatter wrote:No they have not 'coerced' at all.
In fact, every news account I've read has companies acting of their own accord.
The SMH reported Paypal as having acted on a letter sent to Wikileaks by The Government, that the US Government hadn't contacted Paypal at all.
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Well, I heard a radio news report from an executive of PayPal stating that they reacted to a letter from the US government, stating with no real evidence that WikiLeaks is engaged in illegal acts, something that has not been tested in court...The Mad Hatter wrote:No they have not 'coerced' at all.
In fact, every news account I've read has companies acting of their own accord.
The SMH reported Paypal as having acted on a letter sent to Wikileaks by The Government, that the US Government hadn't contacted Paypal at all.
Here, I agree with Gawd. The US is exerting every bit of influence it can to attack Assange and WikiLeaks, for nothing but self-interest and revenge...
Public opinion in Oz is strongly in favour of WikiLeaks and Assange...
(mind you, Gawd, it is absurd hyperbole to include Palin in your counter examples. Whether one detests her politics or not, she is a mainstream US politician...)
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It's not news, really. US Administration highly embarassed by WikiLeaks is using every diplomatic, technical and economic weapon in it's armoury to shut things down. Any great power would do the same. Even if companies are not "being forced" to sever contacts with WikiLeaks, you can bet they will do it anyway so as not to jeopardise future contracts with the USG
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Firstly, such letters are requests, not coercion, and a major Corporation like Visa would not take too kindly to being denied business by a Government subverting the law. In fact, I'm fairly certain major corporations like Visa would make some very public statements about it, or some very private threats. Corporations protect themselves above all else, and unless they've been doing some rather naughty things the US Govt. knows about, there isn't much the US Govt. can do by way of coercion.JimC wrote:Well, I heard a radio news report from an executive of PayPal stating that they reacted to a letter from the US government, stating with no real evidence that WikiLeaks is engaged in illegal acts, something that has not been tested in court...The Mad Hatter wrote:No they have not 'coerced' at all.
In fact, every news account I've read has companies acting of their own accord.
The SMH reported Paypal as having acted on a letter sent to Wikileaks by The Government, that the US Government hadn't contacted Paypal at all.
Here, I agree with Gawd. The US is exerting every bit of influence it can to attack Assange and WikiLeaks, for nothing but self-interest and revenge...
Public opinion in Oz is strongly in favour of WikiLeaks and Assange...
(mind you, Gawd, it is absurd hyperbole to include Palin in your counter examples. Whether one detests her politics or not, she is a mainstream US politician...)
I can't find the SMH article that referenced a letter sent to WL, but this is enough to debunk the 'coercion' claim for PayPal:
Link to Original SourcePayPal spokesman Marc Jaugey clarified to AFP that "based on the American government's position and in no way based on a letter directly addressed to PayPal the team that manages PayPal account general usage regulations froze the WikiLeaks account".
What these corporations are doing is what any good business would do - cover their ass. If Wikileaks is found to be illegal then they could be held responsible for funding a criminal organisation if they didn't stop providing the service once WL's legality became an issue.
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