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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:39 pm

Millefleur wrote:I have no time for books and a long list I want to read. Anything my sister gushes about is barred from the list for all eternity, that includes Harry Potter and Twilight.
I read the first Harry in one day.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

Post by Ian » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:45 pm

I saw it last night. I thought it was gloomy and paced very slow through most of it. And some fairly important characters got little or even no screentime. But it was nevertheless good - I'd be happy to go out and watch Part 2 tonight!

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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

Post by Millefleur » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:46 pm

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Millefleur wrote:I have no time for books and a long list I want to read. Anything my sister gushes about is barred from the list for all eternity, that includes Harry Potter and Twilight.
I read the first Harry in one day.
That is typically what I do, pick up a book and read through 300+ pages in an afternoon, 'tis why I daren't pick up a book at the moment.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

Post by PsychoSerenity » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:50 pm

Eriku wrote: You really think that's what's making us snooty about Harry Potter?

lol... it's just meant for kids and it kind of shows, and some of us get bored by that sort of thing. Hardly a mystery, and that's why the "book for children" argument crops up.

Far be it from me to say I'm superior because of this, 'tis simply my taste and, sure, I might bully someone a bit by tossing in a snide remark about that :biggrin: but that's how things go, I'm afraid :)
See I wouldn't really say they're meant for kids - well maybe the first two are, but by the time you get to the 4th and 5th books they're dealing with subjects like murder, war, torture, racism, in quite a lot of detail. I'd say they're more meant for teens. And they're very well written so there's no reason anyone can't enjoy them.
I'll always like them anyway, because I grew up with them - when the fourth book came out, I was in the same year at school as Harry was at Hogwarts.

I've never really liked the films though, they've just never lived up to what I thought they could have been. And each time a new one comes out, I do watch them (though usually just torrent), but I can't enjoy them because I'm constantly thinking "that didn't happen in the book, that makes no sense, that also never happened, that completely contradicts the rest of the plot". I think they spent too much time in long sequences of special effects, when they could have been getting on with telling the actual story.
Gawdzilla wrote:I read the first Harry in one day.
When the last book came out some people were doing a 7 Potters in 7 Days challenge, but I'm far too slow a reader to do that. I think it would take me closer to a month. :hehe:
[Disclaimer - if this is comes across like I think I know what I'm talking about, I want to make it clear that I don't. I'm just trying to get my thoughts down]

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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:56 pm

Psychoserenity wrote:When the last book came out some people were doing a 7 Potters in 7 Days challenge, but I'm far too slow a reader to do that. I think it would take me closer to a month. :hehe:
I had to buy two of the last one. I got an eight hour headstart on Brenda because she had to work that day (and her boss told me in no uncertain terms to NOT bring her copy to her. :biggrin: ) She started reading it when she got home and finished it about 6 am the next morning. Good thing she didn't have to work that day.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

Post by Eriku » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:37 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
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Sælir eru einfaldir wrote:I think I saw the first one many years ago. Haven´t seen another one since and have never read the books!
I had motivation to read them. Brenda as a children's librarian and read the books for her courses. And naturally, she had to have someone to argue about them with. For that reason, but not solely that reason, I have read them all and seen all the movies. And I'm not insecure enough in my adulthood to pretend they're "beneath me." :biggrin:

Okay, OGBs, your turn.
You really think that's what's making us snooty about Harry Potter?

lol... it's just meant for kids and it kind of shows, and some of us get bored by that sort of thing. Hardly a mystery, and that's why the "book for children" argument crops up.

Far be it from me to say I'm superior because of this, 'tis simply my taste and, sure, I might bully someone a bit by tossing in a snide remark about that :biggrin: but that's how things go, I'm afraid :)
I said nothing about "snooty". This is not the only forum I'm on where HP is being discussed, and the OGBs come out of the woodwork at the mention of Harry.
No, you said it was all born out of insecurity... At any rate I'm not too bothered what you wanna label it... but I will object to being labelled an old grumpy bastard at 25 :|

If so then I've been one since my teens.

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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:39 pm

Eriku wrote:No, you said it was all born out of insecurity... At any rate I'm not too bothered what you wanna label it... but I will object to being labelled an old grumpy bastard at 25 :|

If so then I've been one since my teens.
I said nothing about your insecurities, although you've since said volumes.

As for being an OGB, there's no lower age limit. Ask TMH. :smug:
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

Post by Eriku » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:27 pm

Gawdzilla wrote: I had motivation to read them. Brenda as a children's librarian and read the books for her courses. And naturally, she had to have someone to argue about them with. For that reason, but not solely that reason, I have read them all and seen all the movies. And I'm not insecure enough in my adulthood to pretend they're "beneath me." :biggrin:

Okay, OGBs, your turn.
Oh, I see... My frail ego read so much into that, you didn't in any way imply that that's what others do when they say "meh, mediocre literature, not worth reading when I've got a bumload of other books from the contemporary and classical canon that I've neglected".

But I'm assuming you won't admit to that being implied either?

edit: Tbh re-reading it now it's ambiguous... you might just be saying that "I'm not going to pretend I'm too adult for it when I in fact like it"... I prolly inferred too much but I'd say it's an honest mistake... and no, it's not an indication of me rationalising and being frustrated in my attempts at it... though now you'll take that sentence and say "methinks the lady doth protest too much", but that might be me assuming too much again so I'm going to smash my keyboard and stay away from this thread now.

As for the OGB, I know grumpy and bastard can be thrown around willy nilly, but surely old does have a fairly clear cut-off point, and it dun occur in the tweens... or is it a state of mind? If so, why are we dedicating "old" to these negative connotations? Is it possibly ageism in a way?

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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:01 pm

"Old" as in "this shit gets old quick, so lighten up" old. And I say nothing ambiguous about other people.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

Post by Eriku » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:27 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:"Old" as in "this shit gets old quick, so lighten up" old. And I say nothing ambiguous about other people.
Tbh I was joking with my extended musings... also, I didn't say you said something ambiguous about us... I meant it was ambiguous in that you could be referring to what you thought the general condition was (one either likes Harry Potter, or one is engaging in "I'm too old for this shit"-isms), or just simply that in your case the most feasible reason for disliking it would have to be a rationale like that. Or something to those effects... at least that's how I read it.

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