Social disorder - what do you think?

[Rum]

We discussed civil disobedience recently with mixed results. Today we have news of student protests in the UK - the occupation of buildings, recent riots in France and Greece and mutterings of uncharacteristically radical action in Ireland following the announcement of an austerity package which will take them back tot he 1960s. We have thousands of jobs going down the shitter in the UK too as I speak.

People are angry and frustrated and they don't believe the mealy-mouthed words of politicians justifying their policies, even if there is some truth in what the bastards say.

Is social disorder, particularly in Europe inevitable in the coming period. Where do you think it will lead?

[Clinton Huxley]

Combine a monstrous economic outlook with levels of inequality that are higher than ever and I think unrest is inevitable. In fact, just the sight of Michael Gove's face makes me want to set fire to something.

[Rum]

Combine a monstrous economic outlook with levels of inequality that are higher than ever and I think unrest is inevitable. In fact, just the sight of Michael Gove's face makes me want to set fire to something.

His face in particular. Mind you someone has already had a go at his chin. Its not there any more is it?

[stripes4]

I think we've had an easy ride with credit handed out like smarties, and now it's the swing of the pendulum in the other direction. Nature always finds a balance. Similar rules apply to economics. Suck it up and enjoy the ride.

[Clinton Huxley]

The justification for the overthrow of the Government: Part 1:-



What a cock.

[Rum]

True story this. I was at a meeting yesterday with someone who has been to DfE (dept for Education) meeting in London. There was a discussion about something Gove wanted to do. The civil servant said that although it looked like a money saving idea (which is theme #1 in Tory govt of course), when you factored A, B and C in it actually would cost more than Gove's idea.

Gove apparently slammed the table with both fists and said' I don't care - I have been waiting 15 years to do this and I want it done!'

What a pillock.

[Clinton Huxley]

He has the look of someone who kills grannies and dissolves them in acid baths.

[Trolldor]

Looks like Sam from Lord of the rings.

[Rum]

He looks like a little boy who never quite became a man.

[Hermit]

Is social disorder, particularly in Europe inevitable in the coming period. Where do you think it will lead?

It'll lead to where it has usually led between 1848 and 1968: more repression, more surveillance, more infringements on freedom.

The pattern is pretty much the same, regardless of whether the liberals are in government or the conservatives.

[Robert_S]

The justification for the overthrow of the Government: Part 1:-



What a cock.

That's an actual politician?

Looks more like someone with a supporting role in a sitcom.

[Clinton Huxley]

That is our esteemed Education Minister.

[Meekychuppet]

I think we've had an easy ride with credit handed out like smarties, and now it's the swing of the pendulum in the other direction. Nature always finds a balance. Similar rules apply to economics. Suck it up and enjoy the ride.

Why the fucking hell do people continue to believe this shite? Credit had to be easy because wages have been stagnant since the 1970s. People have not gone in to debt to buy extravagant luxuries. They have done it so they can eat. It's THE massive propaganda coup of the banks that they have convinced people whom they have strangled financially that they have been the irresponsible ones.

Edit, you might all want to read up on the conditions that inspired the French Revolution. If we didn't have debt then those people who have borrowed would be in a very similar situation to the peasants in France. Civil wars have begun this way. You can't pummel the working classes endlessly. Eventually something very nasty is going to happen.

[Robert_S]

I don't know how things compare really from the UK to the US... But here there were massive credit abuses. I mean that credit was pushed. You could get free stuff just for filling out a credit card application. Employees at the Kohl's department store chain are still penalized for not pushing consumers into getting store credit cards.

Part of the effects of the easy credit was that the prices to wages relationship went completely lopsided. Since 1990, the low-end wages where I live have doubled, but low-end rent has tripled.

[Meekychuppet]

The most damning thing I heard in ages was that the three most unequal societies were formerly all banana republics. Now the top three consists of USA, Nicaragua and UK. That should terrify all of us.