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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by JimC » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:13 am

Do Biggles books count as classics?
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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by Rum » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:56 am

Should: The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire (honest injun - read the whole effing thing!)

Shouldn't: Don Quixote

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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by Ronja » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:02 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:Classic you should read:-

The War of the World by H.G. Wells.


Classic you shouldn't read:-

20,000 Leagues Under The Sea by Jules Verne.
Funny, I would have inverted those
And I would have placed them both in the "should read" category. I love Jules Verne's books, since time (almost) out of memory. Phileas Fogg... :swoon:
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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by Santa_Claus » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:21 pm

Yes - Animal Farm by George Orwell.

No- Great Expectations by Charles "Jeffrey Archer" Dickens :fp:
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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by Ronja » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:25 pm

Classics you should read: Mark Twain: A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court (works nicely as an audiobook, too)

Classics you shouldn't read: -
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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by Santa_Claus » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:38 pm

Yes - Homers Odyssey. Ripping yarn.

No - Homers Illiad. repetetive and dull. but to be fair, probably far better in the ancient greek. told around a campfire......but not in one go :gaah:
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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by Svartalf » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:34 am

Santa_Claus wrote:No- Great Expectations by Charles "Jeffrey Archer" Dickens :fp:
Interesting. Great Expectations is the only Dickens book I ever read completely and in the original (I was exposed to Oliver Twist and David Copperfield in abridged, possibly bowdlerized translations as a child, and hated them), I did not hate it completely, though it did not push me to read more dickens. Would you have a Dickens recommendation in the "must read" category?
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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by Svartalf » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:38 am

Santa_Claus wrote:Yes - Homers Odyssey. Ripping yarn.

No - Homers Illiad. repetetive and dull. but to be fair, probably far better in the ancient greek. told around a campfire......but not in one go :gaah:
You understand that Aedic poems were NOT designed to be read at one sitting, but indeed sung around the campfire or banquet hall, probably just one canto per evening, right?

and I disagree with not reading the Iliad, it provides some essential context to the Odyssey, and shows off a completely different facet of Epic Poetry.
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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by FBM » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:55 am

Should read: Being and Time, Martin Heidegger

Shouldn't read: Being and Time, M. Heidegger


Yeah, I know. It's a hell of a rush, but it...did things...to me. :twitch:
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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by JimC » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:44 am

FBM wrote:Should read: Being and Time, Martin Heidegger

Shouldn't read: Being and Time, M. Heidegger


Yeah, I know. It's a hell of a rush, but it...did things...to me. :twitch:
So, the edition where he shortens his first name is crap, right? :dunno:

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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by FBM » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:48 am

JimC wrote:
FBM wrote:Should read: Being and Time, Martin Heidegger

Shouldn't read: Being and Time, M. Heidegger


Yeah, I know. It's a hell of a rush, but it...did things...to me. :twitch:
So, the edition where he shortens his first name is crap, right? :dunno:

:biggrin:

Ya. That's the crap one.

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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by Santa_Claus » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:08 am

Svartalf wrote:You understand that Aedic poems were NOT designed to be read at one sitting, but indeed sung around the campfire or banquet hall, probably just one canto per evening, right?
Yeah. I had a few doubts about my signed Penguin version :ask:
and I disagree with not reading the Iliad, it provides some essential context to the Odyssey, and shows off a completely different facet of Epic Poetry.
Ok, perhaps not read is a bit harsh. but mostly because of it's origins. (but I like history). but I found the difference with the Odyssey very marked.


A good Dickens? got me there :ask: but I've not read them all.
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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by DRSB » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:44 am

Classic you shouldn't read:

Ulysses, James Joyce.[/quote]
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I made it through the reading, albeit with guidance. At James Joyce's house in Zurich, (he wrote the thing in Zurich), there are readings with a Joyce-expert who explains the references, like, "the protagonist is standing beside a statue in front of a public pissoir in Dublin", you know, without such pertinent information the reader is lost, but I made it, two chapters a week, over a winter term, well worth it, I'd say, it is a classic one definitely should read!

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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by Hermit » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:17 pm

Deersbee wrote:Ulysses, James Joyce.
:gaah:
I made it through the reading, albeit with guidance. At James Joyce's house in Zurich, (he wrote the thing in Zurich), there are readings with a Joyce-expert who explains the references, like, "the protagonist is standing beside a statue in front of a public pissoir in Dublin", you know, without such pertinent information the reader is lost, but I made it, two chapters a week, over a winter term, well worth it, I'd say, it is a classic one definitely should read!
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Re: Classics you should read, classics you shouldn't

Post by Animavore » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:20 pm

:lay: Joyce is brilliant.

It's probably easier to read if you're from Dublin, though.
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