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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by Don't Panic » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:36 pm

Charlou wrote:It mentions that scum masons are not a common variation ... but that's not all that helpful here. At this point, I'm assuming honesty on both DP and Mort's part and looking elsewhere for scum ..
One thing from that wiki is that it says scum masons don't get a specific PM telling them they win with town, Ghat sent the PM to the 3 of us together.
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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by Rob » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:40 pm

Yesterday I was a bit busy and didn't take the time to scrutinize the entire thread ( I was on date of sorts). If you are claiming that I am scum because I missed a post then I misjudged your ability to analyze a mafia game, not to mention the fact that you are barking up the wrong tree.

Mort, I specifically said I think Charlou is town but I want to comb the threads to be sure. If this is suspicious to you then I don't know what to tell you.
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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by mononoke » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:41 pm

Morticia wrote:
mononoke wrote:
Morticia wrote:I don't care which one of the two are voted for at this point. I just don't want to split the vote and have both of them slide. Come to think of it. Oblivion was all over Zigmen and then got NK.
Unvote
Vote Zigmen
I think you are reaching a little here. Morts why are you in a hurry to pile up votes?
I'm not in hurry to stack votes I'm trying to ensure scum is lynched. IMO both Denny and Zig are both scum. As I said I don't want them to survive because the votes are split. What is reaching about that? Why are you so against it?

For now, Unvote

(Sorry Ghat)
I'm not against voting, we have time for that. But i'm not convinced Zig is scum just yet. Ob was wrong about a lot of things. and framing Zig by killing off Ob that night is a nice scum tactic. You sighting that is also pinging me.

This vote should count the most, and i don't like the idea of people piling on votes to get things finished. It rings scum to me, who want this to end quick.

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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by Don't Panic » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:42 pm

Vote Charlou

Vote DennyB


Doesn't matter which scum we lynch today so long as we get one of them, that gives Charlou a better chance of blocking one of them tonight, unless she decides to protect herself.

Zigmen and probably Durro are our next targets, but I haven't really ruled out mono or, to a lesser degree, SR fully yet.
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And those Zumwalts are already useless, they can be taken out with an ICBM.
The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity and richness and strangeness that is absolutely awesome. I mean the idea that such complexity can arise not only out of such simplicity, but probably absolutely out of nothing, is the most fabulous extraordinary idea. And once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened, it's just wonderful. And . . . the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned.
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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by mononoke » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:43 pm

ScienceRob wrote:Yesterday I was a bit busy and didn't take the time to scrutinize the entire thread ( I was on date of sorts). If you are claiming that I am scum because I missed a post then I misjudged your ability to analyze a mafia game, not to mention the fact that you are barking up the wrong tree.

Mort, I specifically said I think Charlou is town but I want to comb the threads to be sure. If this is suspicious to you then I don't know what to tell you.
Seriously :brood:

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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by Morticia » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:44 pm

mononoke wrote:
Morticia wrote:
mononoke wrote:
Morticia wrote:I don't care which one of the two are voted for at this point. I just don't want to split the vote and have both of them slide. Come to think of it. Oblivion was all over Zigmen and then got NK.
Unvote
Vote Zigmen
I think you are reaching a little here. Morts why are you in a hurry to pile up votes?
I'm not in hurry to stack votes I'm trying to ensure scum is lynched. IMO both Denny and Zig are both scum. As I said I don't want them to survive because the votes are split. What is reaching about that? Why are you so against it?

For now, Unvote

(Sorry Ghat)
I'm not against voting, we have time for that. But i'm not convinced Zig is scum just yet. Ob was wrong about a lot of things. and framing Zig by killing off Ob that night is a nice scum tactic. You sighting that is also pinging me.

This vote should count the most, and i don't like the idea of people piling on votes to get things finished. It rings scum to me, who want this to end quick.
I agree with you. Hence the unvote for now. Also so this isn't lost by the vote switching. Vote CHarlou

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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by Don't Panic » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:46 pm

Kids, town bickering is not going to help us, we are down to the wire on this, 3 scum and 5 town left.

One mistake and we lose.
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And those Zumwalts are already useless, they can be taken out with an ICBM.
The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity and richness and strangeness that is absolutely awesome. I mean the idea that such complexity can arise not only out of such simplicity, but probably absolutely out of nothing, is the most fabulous extraordinary idea. And once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened, it's just wonderful. And . . . the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned.
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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by mononoke » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:54 pm

SR smells like scum to me, far more than Zigmen.

And Durro has cast some really dodgie votes and then buggered off. not explanation nothing

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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by mononoke » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:55 pm

mononoke wrote:SR smells like scum to me, far more than Zigmen.

And Durro has cast some really dodgie votes and then buggered off. not explanation nothing
Should be

no explanation, nothing

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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by Morticia » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:00 pm

I will be out for most of the afternoon. I will try to check in on my phone but I should be back to a computer before nightfall.

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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by Rob » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:01 pm

Do you allow proxies in this game ? I'd be happier giving a proxy to someone who can make a decision based on any further info that comes out, like a cop's investigation or whatever. I'll be around for about 10 more mins, and will change to a proxy if you guys can OK it.
From Durro, day 2. This strikes me as a very anti-scum thing to do. I'm not that familiar with proxies, is there any reason scum would proxy his vote to town? Besides the obvious generation of trust, do you think this is something scum would likely do?

Finished with day 2 review. Mono, I don't know if that smilie is indicative of a FOS or exasperation. By the way when I said you were fluffy I meant in comparison to me because I believe you said I was making fluffy posts, which I have yet to do. Also day 2 you accused me of a fluff post because of my questioning of the GM intervention.
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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by mononoke » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:04 pm

Durro is a pro scum player SR. handing over proxies is a wonderful way to gain trust. go through some of the RatSkep mafia games.

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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by Zigmen » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:07 pm

I have to go to work soon. Some of you may not appreciate that i put pressure on other players as hard as I do, but that's my game.

There's one question still unanswered:

Why didn't Charlou protect Ani at least once?

I'm all ears, and you guys have about 20 minutes to get me to change my mind.

Beyond that, my gut is still saying Mort/DP with a Charlou kicker.
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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by Zigmen » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:09 pm

Don't Panic wrote:
Charlou wrote:It mentions that scum masons are not a common variation ... but that's not all that helpful here. At this point, I'm assuming honesty on both DP and Mort's part and looking elsewhere for scum ..
One thing from that wiki is that it says scum masons don't get a specific PM telling them they win with town, Ghat sent the PM to the 3 of us together.
If you all got the same PM, then Feck would have Known you were all the same alignment.

I know Feck would have outed that.
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Re: V mafia day 4

Post by Morticia » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:13 pm

Feck is capable of making mistakes. If not outing was even a mistake. It wasn't discussed while he was alive. He also didn't save himself when he could have.

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