I like cats better than chinchillas, anyway. So you must be innocent.lordpasternack wrote:Okay. What gives?! DP actually FOLLOWED THROUGH and gave me a Formal Warning! I thought this was all just a lark - you power-abusing admin and utter bastard. This is the ultimate betrayal. This is the darkest chapter of my life so far.
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Thanks for the clarification on "notice of removal"
different from this(mine): "But all I can think is that he's trying to fight his court case one-handed in the public sphere, before it actually takes place in the legal one" ?
hadespussercats wrote:I just looked up "notice of removal"-- the gist I get is that a defendant can apply to have his case removed from state to federal jurisdiction, or from one state to another (as long as all defendants in a case agree to do so.) The reasons for this could be that the defendant doubts their ability to get a fair trial under the initial jurisdiction, or that possibly the statutes of the new jurisdiction would be more favorable to the defendant's case. Or possibly so that two people who just moved to Oregon don't have to travel to California for their court dates. I'm not sure.
But how is this (your words):" Litigation is a long process, and there are many different audiences. He may be trying to give the impression that he is confident about the case and doesn't mind if folks are aware of every little thing"Coito ergo sum wrote:Not quite. A notice of removal is only used to move a case from state court to federal court. If the issue was state court to another state court, it would be a motion to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction, or a motion for change of venue (if two state courts both have jurisdiction).
The notice of removal doesn't require a "fair trial" issue - it's based on either (a) the complaint raises a "federal question" (federal constitutional question, or claim under a federal statute), or (b) the parties are of diverse jurisdictions or "diversity jurisdiction." Here, Timonen has removed the case based on his allegation that RDF has raised a "federal question" under the United States Copyright Act.
different from this(mine): "But all I can think is that he's trying to fight his court case one-handed in the public sphere, before it actually takes place in the legal one" ?
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Don't Panic wrote:This is a formal notification of intent to file a formal warning for the act of impersonating a staff member, impalation upon a staff's member, and implying a member has a staff.Bella Fortuna wrote:Both of you shut it. I have it on good authority that Josh was lent a penis by his other half. Anyone who spends his days cuddling chinchillas is sorely in need of one.Don't Panic wrote:LordPasternak, this is a formal warning for suggesting that I would not share evidence of the existence of Josh's member with you in order to have it professionally assessed by the resident expert on all things Phallic.lordpasternack wrote:Don't Panic, this is a formal warning for a personal attack on another user of this forum.Don't Panic wrote:Pappa, this is a formal warning for a personal attack on another member.
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I was soooo tempted to lock the thread after seeing that in the last post.Thinking Aloud wrote:

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is it really an attack to equate him with parts that granting he has them is a compliment in the first place?Don't Panic wrote:Pappa, this is a formal warning for a personal attack on another member.Pappa wrote:Josh = dicklordpasternack wrote:Pappa's post: abridged version. Practically lossless compression.Pappa wrote:Josh is an utter dufus
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This is a fun game.hadespussercats wrote: I like cats better than chinchillas, anyway. So you must be innocent.


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Awwww..... he looks lovely. I wish I had an uncle like that.lordpasternack wrote:This is a fun game.hadespussercats wrote: I like cats better than chinchillas, anyway. So you must be innocent.What do you make of this chap, then?
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Yeah, I can just picture myself strolling through the countryside with him, singing "Hey Jude", or something. 

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You mean "Hey, Juden"
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… take a saaaad song, and make it better… The minute, this gets right into your heart, then we can start to make things better... 

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Because people involved in litigation can have two different interests: (a) litigation interest in winning the case, (b) public interest in making sure they protect their image. One can try to protect (b) without actually "litigating" the case in the public sphere.hadespussercats wrote:Thanks for the clarification on "notice of removal"
hadespussercats wrote:I just looked up "notice of removal"-- the gist I get is that a defendant can apply to have his case removed from state to federal jurisdiction, or from one state to another (as long as all defendants in a case agree to do so.) The reasons for this could be that the defendant doubts their ability to get a fair trial under the initial jurisdiction, or that possibly the statutes of the new jurisdiction would be more favorable to the defendant's case. Or possibly so that two people who just moved to Oregon don't have to travel to California for their court dates. I'm not sure.But how is this (your words):" Litigation is a long process, and there are many different audiences. He may be trying to give the impression that he is confident about the case and doesn't mind if folks are aware of every little thing"Coito ergo sum wrote:Not quite. A notice of removal is only used to move a case from state court to federal court. If the issue was state court to another state court, it would be a motion to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction, or a motion for change of venue (if two state courts both have jurisdiction).
The notice of removal doesn't require a "fair trial" issue - it's based on either (a) the complaint raises a "federal question" (federal constitutional question, or claim under a federal statute), or (b) the parties are of diverse jurisdictions or "diversity jurisdiction." Here, Timonen has removed the case based on his allegation that RDF has raised a "federal question" under the United States Copyright Act.
different from this(mine): "But all I can think is that he's trying to fight his court case one-handed in the public sphere, before it actually takes place in the legal one" ?
All Timonen did here is take documents which are of public record, and were bound to get out eventually, and post them where people can read them. He hasn't made any arguments or commentary associated with that. So, it's hard to see how he's 'litigated' anything in the public sphere.
If he was actually looking to litigate in public, I would think he'd be making his case. He hasn't. We still don't know what his position really is. All we know is that he thinks Dawkins raised a "federal question." That tells us nothing.
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I would suggest that said spanking be administered in public to teach us all a valuable lesson. Perhaps use one of these:Don't Panic wrote:I warned Pappa for insulting Josh since Josh is a member here, it appears I inadvertently also insulted Josh in my warning for Josh being insulted.Coito ergo sum wrote:What's going on here? Are you attacking a member because he's a dick? Or, attacking a member's dick?lordpasternack wrote:Don't Panic, this is a formal warning for a personal attack on another user of this forum.Don't Panic wrote:Pappa, this is a formal warning for a personal attack on another member.
It is not okay to imply that Josh has a dick unless you have evidence.
It is not okay to imply that Josh has a member unless you have evidence.
I fully expect to shortly receive a warning for my warning, and LP is imitating a mod, and will soon be spanked until she's had enough.,

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Bella Fortuna wrote:You mean "Hey, Juden"

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That was the joke that I was making anyway! "Jude" is the German word for Jew. "Juden" is just the plural. Laugh at me, too!maiforpeace wrote:Bella Fortuna wrote:You mean "Hey, Juden"


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