EPIC FAIL: Cooks Source Magazine and plagiarism

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EPIC FAIL: Cooks Source Magazine and plagiarism

Post by Ronja » Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:17 pm

I almost can't believe this story - but I have visited the Facebook pages in question, and the magazine editor really appears to be as clueless as the story paints her.
...writer Monica Gaudio, who was surprised to learn this week that the small culinary magazine Cooks Source had lifted her five-year-old story for medieval cookery blog Gode Cookery entitled "A Tale of Two Tarts" wholesale for its recent Pumpkin Fest issue. Cooks Source epic mistake number one: taking work without compensating or even contacting the writer.

Gaudio contacted the magazine via e-mail, and when editor Judith Griggs asked what she would like her to do for her, she replied, "I responded that I wanted an apology on Facebook, a printed apology in the magazine and $130 donation (which turns out to be about $0.10 per word of the original article) to be given to the Columbia School of Journalism."

What she got instead was this: "Yes Monica, I have been doing this for 3 decades, ... I do know about copyright laws. It was 'my bad' indeed, ... But honestly Monica, the web is considered 'public domain' and you should be happy we just didn't 'lift' your whole article and put someone else's name on it! It happens a lot, clearly more than you are aware of, ... you as a professional should know that the article we used written by you was in very bad need of editing, and is much better now than was originally. Now it will work well for your portfolio. For that reason, I have a bit of a difficult time with your requests for monetary gain, albeit for such a fine (and very wealthy!) institution. We put some time into rewrites, you should compensate me! I never charge young writers for advice or rewriting poorly written pieces, and have many who write for me... ALWAYS for free!" ( :fp: - sorry, couldn't help that )

Let's just call that e-mail Griggs's epic mistake numbers one through zillion: the blatant misunderstanding of the concept of public domain, the insulting the work of the person she'd stolen from, the "at least we didn't plagiarize" defense, and the real kicker, the absurd, Ginni Thomas-style "No, you should compensate me!" business.

Deciding that a payment in the form of shoddy reasoning and dismissive snark was unsatisfying, Gaudio then did what so many little guys have done when in the face of rudeness and stonewalling. On Wednesday, she crowdsourced it, with a brief blog recap of the whole ugly story and an invitation that "I have some ideas of where to go from here but I am more than willing to listen to other suggestions."

That's all it took. What began as a few comments advising her to get some good legal counsel quickly snowballed as the collective outrage moved off Gaudio's LiveJournal page and onto – where else? – Facebook and Twitter. Suddenly the little magazine's Facebook page was accumulating new "fans" like a warm apple pie attracts scoops of vanilla ice cream. Let the hilarious public shaming commence!

What had perhaps once been a basic fan page and – too bad for Cooks Source – online version of the magazine/damning evidence of its bad behavior – has now become the virtual stockade. ... But more than just expressing indignation, enterprising Facebookers have quickly compiled a list of the magazine's advertisers, the better to contact them about its dubious practices. They also cleverly deduced that Gaudio was unlikely the only writer they'd ever pulled this stunt with. While you can't copyright lists of ingredients, thankfully you also still can't flat out steal other people's work. Sure enough, when Facebookers combed the online pages of the magazine, they found dozens of examples of articles and photos, lifted from Weight Watchers, Food Network, Martha Stewart, Sunset and NPR among others. Oh God, they are so hosed. ...
More at: http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/ ... et_revenge

You could knock me over with a feather after I browsed the Facebook discussion thread about all the lifted content in the magazine. I mean these people apparently sold stolen work - and they appear to have been stupid enough to steal even from DISNEY! Who is that suicidal??? :shock:

If I was a bookie, I would give about 100:1 odds on that the magazine will go belly up before New Year.
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Re: EPIC FAIL: Cooks Source Magazine and plagiarism

Post by klr » Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:25 pm

Ronja wrote: ...
You could knock me over with a feather after I browsed the Facebook discussion thread about all the lifted content in the magazine. I mean these people apparently sold stolen work - and they appear to have been stupid enough to steal even from DISNEY! Who is that suicidal??? :shock:

If I was a bookie, I would give about 100:1 odds on that the magazine will go belly up before New Year.
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Post by beige » Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:30 pm

UPDATE: In response to the blistering outpouring on its original Facebook page, it appears Cooks Source has launched a brand new one. Proving again a stunning lack of familiarity with common Internet terms, the moderators declare it "a new page as the last one was hacked." As one commenter explained, "We're not hacking we are hating!" They further fanned the flames by posting, "There's lots of people here that do not seem to understand a few basics yet they seem to all be experts in the print business." In just a few hours, the new page has racked up hundreds of posts, most of which are more scathing than ever. Guess if you're going to run a food magazine it helps to be a glutton -- for punishment.
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Re: EPIC FAIL: Cooks Source Magazine and plagiarism

Post by Ronja » Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:33 pm

Here is the original blog entry by the wronged author: http://illadore.livejournal.com/30674.html

This blog report has loads and loads and loads and still some more links to the whole brouhaha: http://howpublishingreallyworks.com/?p=3450

I am so going to use this in my own teaching of scientific and technical writing, and I will recommend the story to every colleague who will listen!
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Re: EPIC FAIL: Cooks Source Magazine and plagiarism

Post by Ronja » Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:35 pm

beige wrote:
UPDATE: In response to the blistering outpouring on its original Facebook page, it appears Cooks Source has launched a brand new one. Proving again a stunning lack of familiarity with common Internet terms, the moderators declare it "a new page as the last one was hacked." As one commenter explained, "We're not hacking we are hating!" They further fanned the flames by posting, "There's lots of people here that do not seem to understand a few basics yet they seem to all be experts in the print business." In just a few hours, the new page has racked up hundreds of posts, most of which are more scathing than ever. Guess if you're going to run a food magazine it helps to be a glutton -- for punishment.
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:food: :drool: Thank you kindly!
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Re: EPIC FAIL: Cooks Source Magazine and plagiarism

Post by Ronja » Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:11 pm

I do not BELIEVE this "editor" on FB can be a real person! From the magazine's Facebook "wall" http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cooks-Sou ... 3077022302
Purposefully spamming into an account or hacking a page into the ground is not a mature way to deal with a disagreement of this sort, please be advised, the FCC will be notified as well as the facebook board of policies.
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Some people like nice things and nice people,
and other people, the sickos, like to harm people and make chaos. Please
take your hacking elsewhere. There is a revolution coming in this
country and the harmful people and sickos can just get lost.
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Yes, I'm so upset that you sickos and your idiocy has been picked up by the liberal lamestream media. Oh boo-hoo. LOL

You people are just low sickos that enjoy controversy. You'll get tired in an hour or two, and then it's back to getting people ready for thanksgiving!
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names of anyone hacking on this page will be recorded and reported.
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Deb Mattingly Anybody notice the date on that silly file she posted? It's only about 10 years out of date! Too funny!

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I'm starting to agree with Deb. A person like this cannot exist, can she? This FB page has got to be a sham? :ask: :begging:
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Re: EPIC FAIL: Cooks Source Magazine and plagiarism

Post by Ronja » Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:40 pm

The outrage got organized pretty fast. This Google Document lists over 150 sources for articles allegedly copied into the magazine.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key ... l=en#gid=0
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Post by Lozzer » Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:50 pm

Oh, this is hilarious. I've been reading through all of it for 20 minutes or so, and I must agree, what the hell is that FB admin on?
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Post by Rob » Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:13 am

Cooks Source Magazine You can all just go shove it! You're negative people, go shove it wear the sun don't shine, sickos.
I lol'd.
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Post by maiforpeace » Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:58 am

That's crazy - I can't believe the nerve of their Facebook page either...you think they would have the dignity to slink away with their tails between their legs. Cooks Source was skewered. :lol:
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Post by Rob » Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:02 am

Take a look at their photos for a couple laughs, mai.
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Re: EPIC FAIL: Cooks Source Magazine and plagiarism

Post by Ronja » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:17 am

As entertaining as that ^^ was, this is their original FB page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cooks-Sou ... 6994196748

The Discussions section is really interesting - some activist people overreacting, others calming them down, local people reporting on how they have visited the advertisers who have been truly appalled etc. Apparently the owner/admin of this original page did not know how to admin/mod...

There are several other FB pages that most likely are hoaxes.


Edit: you will need to use the "Filters" (small blue link under the update window, on the right) and choose entries from only Cooks Source to see the mega-meh "apology" Ms. Griggs posted early in the game. Otherwise the whole wall is pretty much just insults (more or less creative).
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Re: EPIC FAIL: Cooks Source Magazine and plagiarism

Post by Ronja » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:27 am

This raised my interest still - can a serious enough breach of copyright become a public attorney case in MA? Who would know?
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Perhaps by now you are aware of the internet furor regarding blatant acts of plagiarism by a Ms. Judith Griggs, an editor at "Cooks Source Magazine" published in Sunderland, MA. I will not reprise the whole affair here, but direct your attention to: <http://www.edrants.com/the-cooks-source ... -on-theft/> which gives a fair and reasonably short account of the situation. This site lists five incidents of blatant theft of intellectual property, and other internet users have identified many more. It is clear that Ms. Griggs mines the internet for copyrighted material which she misappropriates and publishes in her magazine. The longtime and on-going nature of these multiple thefts for gain surely compromises a criminal act beyond simple civil liability for copyright infringement.

I would like to know what your office will do to put an immediate stop to her outrageous thefts and punish her for long history of theft of intellectual property.

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