Spinoza99, please explain . . .

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Spinoza99, please explain . . .

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:12 pm

Defecation.
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Birth defects.
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Re: Spinoza99, please explain . . .

Post by spinoza99 » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:32 pm

Sorry, don't have the time.
Those who are most effective at reproducing will reproduce. Therefore new species can arise by chance. Charles Darwin.

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Re: Spinoza99, please explain . . .

Post by Ronja » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:47 pm

For some reason I was suddenly reminded of a excellent blog post I saw some time ago...

http://quichemoraine.com/2009/01/nanny- ... et-trolls/
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Re: Spinoza99, please explain . . .

Post by FBM » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:58 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:Defecation.
Tooth decay.
Birth defects.
spinoza99 wrote:Sorry, don't have the time.
When you get a free minute...

syphillis

children born with AIDS

tornados decimating churches

The Inquisition/Crusades

How something with no perceivable/detectable qualities is 'real'.

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Re: Spinoza99, please explain . . .

Post by charlou » Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:02 pm

spinoza99 wrote:Sorry, don't have the time.
That's what He said.
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Post by SPMaximus » Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:08 pm

Charlou wrote:
spinoza99 wrote:Sorry, don't have the time.
That's what He said.
He would never say that :razzle:
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Post by spinoza99 » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:28 pm

FBM wrote:
When you get a free minute...

syphillis

children born with AIDS
This looks like the because the design is not perfect therefore it is not designed fallacy. Also I don't believe in an omnipotent God.
tornados decimating churches
Not a Christian, so it doesn't bother me
Crusades

People will fight for land, should we get rid of land? By the same token, people used to fight for their beliefs, so should we get rid of belief?

the inquisition
Just because people abuse their power does not mean there is not a God
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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:32 pm

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People will fight for land, should we get rid of land? By the same token, people used to fight for their beliefs, so should we get rid of belief?
Land is real. Without land, we would all be swimming about in the sea. Belief ......?
spinoza99 wrote:Just because people abuse their power does not mean there is not a God
Yet god allows these people to have the power to do bad in his name?
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:47 pm

They can't explain something, they either ignore it or lie about it.
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Post by spinoza99 » Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:14 pm

Deep Sea Isopod wrote:
Yet god allows these people to have the power to do bad in his name?
As I already said, God is not omnipotent.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:23 pm

spinoza99 wrote:
Deep Sea Isopod wrote:
Yet god allows these people to have the power to do bad in his name?
As I already said, God is not omnipotent.
So, lese majeste is not as sin?

Anyway, back to the OP.
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Post by FBM » Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:39 pm

spinoza99 wrote:
FBM wrote:
When you get a free minute...

syphillis

children born with AIDS
This looks like the because the design is not perfect therefore it is not designed fallacy. Also I don't believe in an omnipotent God.
Fallacy? Please be specific:
List of Fallacies:

affirming the consequent

anthrocentric fallacy

appeal to authority

a priori fallacies

arguing from "is" to "ought"

argumentum ad baculinum

argumentum ad captandum

argumentum ad crumenam

argumentum ad hominem

argumentum ad ignorantiam

argumentum ad lazarum

argumentum ad misericordiam

argumentum ad populum

argumentum ad verecundiam (see "appeal to authority")

argumentum ex silentio

begging the question

circular reasoning

equivocation

fallacy of false alternatives

fallacies of interrogation

flamboyance

gadarene swine fallacy

genetic fallacy

hasty generalization

if-then fallacies

ignoratio elenchi

invincible ignorance

naturalistic fallacy

non sequitur

paralogism

performative contradiction

petitio principii (see "begging the question")

poisoning the wells

post hoc ergo propter hoc

red herring

straw man fallacy

tu quoque fallacy

undistributed middle
tornados decimating churches
Not a Christian, so it doesn't bother me
:roll: Natural disasters that strike "holy" sites and "holy" people in the middle of worship.

Crusades

People will fight for land, should we get rid of land? By the same token, people used to fight for their beliefs, so should we get rid of belief?
Yes, we should get rid of all forms of stupidity. What's the hard part to understand?

the inquisition
Just because people abuse their power does not mean there is not a God
Just because a lot of people are deluded into believing in an invisible sky-daddy doesn't mean that there is one, either.

Still awaiting evidence. Just a little. The tiniest scrap of real evidence.

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Re: Spinoza99, please explain . . .

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:34 am

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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:59 am

spinoza99 wrote:
Deep Sea Isopod wrote:
Yet god allows these people to have the power to do bad in his name?
As I already said, God is not omnipotent.
Can you back this claim with evidence?

So how much power does he have? He created the entire universe, didn't he? Yet he can't stop a mad man getting into power?
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Post by FBM » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:52 am

spinoza99 wrote:As I already said, God is not omnipotent.
So in what way is it a god? Sounds more like a demi-god, at most. :think: You want a second roll?
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