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India joins China in a wonderful game of bullshit

Post by Trolldor » Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:19 am

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/people/ ... 172js.html
ndian police believe there is a case for charging the Booker Prize-winning author Arundhati Roy with sedition over comments she made about the disputed province of Kashmir, Indian newspapers say.

Reports yesterday said police in Delhi have sought legal opinion about a speech by Roy last week when she said Kashmir has ''never been an integral part of India''. It is not clear if authorities will act on the advice. Roy issued a statement yesterday denying she had done anything wrong.
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Post by redunderthebed » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:06 am

World largest democracy eh that includes freedom of speech remember india.
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:25 am

That's a little disappointing.
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Post by JimC » Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:57 am

Clinton Huxley wrote:That's a little disappointing.
True, but it is a measure of the deep level of conflict over Kashmir...

Between two nuclear armed nations with opposing, fanatical religious traditions... :?
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:55 am

JimC wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:That's a little disappointing.
True, but it is a measure of the deep level of conflict over Kashmir...

Between two nuclear armed nations with opposing, fanatical religious traditions... :?
You'd think two Test cricket playing nations would be able to settle things in a gentlemanly fashion
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Post by Trolldor » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:58 am

It's what happens when you have a Government idiotic enough to believe that it owns a people.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Post by Svartalf » Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:33 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:
JimC wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:That's a little disappointing.
True, but it is a measure of the deep level of conflict over Kashmir...

Between two nuclear armed nations with opposing, fanatical religious traditions... :?
You'd think two Test cricket playing nations would be able to settle things in a gentlemanly fashion
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Post by Warren Dew » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:06 pm

redunderthebed wrote:World largest democracy eh that includes freedom of speech remember india.
Since when does a dictatorship of the majority necessarily include freedom of speech?

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Post by Trolldor » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:12 pm

Since democracy is about the voice of the people.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Post by eXcommunicate » Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:50 pm

Since democracy is about the voice of the people.
That has never guaranteed freedom of speech, which is a right granted to individuals regardless of (and usually in spite of) the will of the people.
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Post by Trolldor » Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:54 pm

Voice is not Will.

Look it up.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Post by eXcommunicate » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:04 pm

Or the voice. Doesn't matter. Democracy is merely the rule of the majority. The word says nothing about which specific rights, if any, should be granted. In this sense, the word 'Democracy' is much like the word 'Atheist' -- saying much, but not much at all.

Secondarily, you are also insinuating that Roy's comments are the "voice of the people."
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Post by Trolldor » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:07 pm

Nice to see you've established a fantasyland for your assumptions.
Is this the part where you tell us of the wonders of Franco's Spain?
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Post by Trolldor » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:50 pm

I was thinking about leaving it but I don't want to.


I think you'll find that democracy takes the form of 'rule by minority' with the mandate to govern handed down to a small section of the population, whether by representation or exclusion, but that it is the voice of the populous, in otherwords their right to express their wants and desires, which inform this minority - ie congress or parliament - what actions they should take.
It is not the majority of the populous who make, pass or vote on legislation.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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