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[higgs2]

So for lynch:

higgs 3 (maneki, irre, blip)
bart 1 (zigment)

Mayor:

irre 3 (maneki, irre, blip)

Also, there are 2 scum left, if there were 3 we'd be at parity now.

3 confirmed (by death) vig's
1 confirmed (by death) roleblocker
1 claimed seer still alive
1 claimed doc, who actually has admitted he lied.

4 scum, 2 dead both vanilla.

[higgs2]

Right now I'm going to have to go with irre, as he is a liar and the mafia rule is to lynch all liars. There was no reason to pretend to be the "doc", and he was cagey about admitting it, kind of implied it at first so that he could deny it if a real doc spoke up. Could have been mafia fishing for specials. He knew that he could guarantee protection if he was scum.

I still think blip is very suspcious.
Bart, i think we should get rid of early next time because he doesn't play.
maneki, noob, could be scum becasue he seems coached. Coached to be against town.
Zigmen, at this point all I really have is the charlou fos, gotta take it at face value since it doesn't seem like anyone else is actually playing any more I'll just go in circles if I keep it up.


Okay, maneki is nooby, but irre and blip, if you are really town you know that this could be "it". You would be working very hard to make sure that I am the right person. Neither of you has given much of a reason for making what could be the final and pivotal lynch vote of this game.

So, zig's sub and bart, and which ever of the three above is town, you need to really think about your votes. If bart's not scum, getting him lynched is as bad as getting me lynched. Irre seems like he's relaxed and ready to cruise into end game, he seems scummy to me.

[higgs2]

Oh, I almost forgot: vote irre

Also, remember that irre is the lead as mayor, as it stand if 2 people vote for him I will still be lynched unless we have a tied mayor vote which would become a role of the die I guess.

[Blip]

I know we have some people who love to do research, this stuff might help just a little bit more than just number of posts. :rollseyes:

It sounds like you are voting for me based on my suspicion of you. That is not the greatest reason unless you have more. I'm guessing that you don't play this very often or don't get suspected much or both. But it was really powerful and cool the way you "whispered" your vote.

I haven't heard sarcasm like this since what you folks call, I believe, seventh grade. It demeans the one who utters it, now as it did then. This observation is not gameplay.

[higgs2]

I know we have some people who love to do research, this stuff might help just a little bit more than just number of posts. :rollseyes:

It sounds like you are voting for me based on my suspicion of you. That is not the greatest reason unless you have more. I'm guessing that you don't play this very often or don't get suspected much or both. But it was really powerful and cool the way you "whispered" your vote.

I haven't heard sarcasm like this since what you folks call, I believe, seventh grade. It demeans the one who utters it, now as it did then. This observation is not gameplay.

If you are town, I hope we're not going to lose this game because of something personal. It's really not personal, it's just mafia. The "whisper" seemed sarcastic to me, btw, not that it upset me.

Hey, so are you town blip? If you are why don't you start from the top and reconsider your vote. If you vote for me, and I'm town, town will verly likely lose unless there is a vig who pegs the scum who puts in a kill tonight and the vig's kill goes through before the scum kill. do you have any questions? Are you really sure? I'm town.

[higgs2]

eh. I think blip is scum. So, normal are you going to stick with zig's vote? Note that he did suspect irre and blip and did not fos me. Bart, you're not going to do anything else in this game, are you.

[Blip]

Hey, so are you town blip?

We both know I am, don't we?

[higgs2]

You aren't behaving like town.

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Oh, I almost forgot: vote irre

Also, remember that irre is the lead as mayor, as it stand if 2 people vote for him I will still be lynched unless we have a tied mayor vote which would become a role of the die I guess.

I like your reasoning here.
vote irre

[higgs2]

Bart, what do you think about the rest of my reasoning? What do you think about zigmen voting for you and blip fosing you?

[irretating]

Higgs, I could consider changing my vote, but you going after me is not conducive, eh. It was extremely pro-town to try and get the scum to kill me when zigmen outed. As I say, if he is playing us all, kudos to him and a great game move.

I note your suspicion of zigmen seems to have evaporated... very odd IMO.

The fact that maneki mayor voted me when i seemed to be going with the zigmen conspiracy theory clears him for me (caveat: i know my game is crap this time).

[higgs2]

You've seen all my reasoning. I decided you were teh one and not him. Lynch all liars, my friend.

I'm not going to get you to change your vote by not going after you, I want to lynch scum, not save myself. You seem to want to save yourself and seem to be willing to wheel and deal to do it. I don't know why you would even reconsider your votes at this point, there is no way I won't be lynched as things stand. I did not try to get scum to kill you that is nonsense. But I did point out that it was strange that the doc wasn't killed, suggested you were not the doc, and I was right, wasn't i.

I don't know, maybe zig's in on it. It seems more straightforward that you would pretend to be doc (slowly so you could back off if counterclaimed). Maybe he did take a gamble on no seer counter claim. But I think killing charlou after she voted for him was a set up.

I 'm really just talking for the benefit of others reading it at this point. If you can't convince me you're not scum, and (if you're town) can't see that I'm pro town then there's nothing more for us to say.

[higgs2]

If it's not Bart/Mono, I have no idea. For the Don, I'm guessing Blip.

For what it's worth, I also think that Bart R is guilty. That's only based on infrequent and non-constructive posts though.

I'm not the don: I'm clearly being kept alive because they don't see me as any threat in the end game. They're right too - of the remaining six players, I am only familiar with one other apart from myself. And my vote just now boiled down to whether I believed Irre, so we'll see...

I think I can agree with this. you are not a threat to scum in the end game.

[higgs2]

vote bartOkay bart, vote yourself for mayor. I will too. Normal, change your vote to ire and vote bart for mayor. It's our only chance. If bart is scum we can' get him tomorrow. But I'm town, if I'm lynched, doom.

Or convince me of a difference lynch vote, and we have to be able to have 3 of us make that vote and vote one of us for mayor.l

[higgs2]

Higgs, I could consider changing my vote, but you going after me is not conducive, eh. It was extremely pro-town to try and get the scum to kill me when zigmen outed. As I say, if he is playing us all, kudos to him and a great game move.

I note your suspicion of zigmen seems to have evaporated... very odd IMO.

The fact that maneki mayor voted me when i seemed to be going with the zigmen conspiracy theory clears him for me (caveat: i know my game is crap this time).

THat is not a town post.