Oh for fuck's.... Scent Advertising?

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Post by Trolldor » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:19 pm

Then please, tell me, how does someone unconscious react to outside stimuli? By the very definition of 'unconscious' they can not be aware of it.
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Post by RuleBritannia » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:24 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:Then please, tell me, how does someone unconscious react to outside stimuli? By the very definition of 'unconscious' they can not be aware of it.
Yes, you're not "aware" of it, it's below your absolute threshold for conscious perception. But it's still recorded in the memory, it's the reason that subliminal adversing (the flashing of images on the TV screen) is illegal.
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Post by Trolldor » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:30 pm

And subliminal advertising also doesn't work.

http://www.snopes.com/business/hidden/popcorn.asp
If you have access to a journal database I'm sure you could pull up some studies.
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Re: Oh for fuck's.... Scent Advertising?

Post by Pappa » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:41 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:Not unconscious. You have to be conscious of it to take notice of it. You can't be attracted by a smell you aren't conscious of.
You can take in all sorts of stimuli without being conscious of them. It's not possible to pay attention to all details of a scene, and the ones that are unimportant are filtered out of out conscious experience.
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Post by Trolldor » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:51 pm

And if it's filtered out how can you react to it?
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Post by maiforpeace » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:00 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:And if it's filtered out how can you react to it?
You might filter it out in the moment, but you may remember it later. I remember all kinds of unimportant things long after the fact.
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Post by Trolldor » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:15 pm

You can not unconsciously take in something. You have to be, to some degree, conscious of it.

The basketball-gorilla is the perfect example of that fact.
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Re: Oh for fuck's.... Scent Advertising?

Post by maiforpeace » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:32 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:You can not unconsciously take in something. You have to be, to some degree, conscious of it.

The basketball-gorilla is the perfect example of that fact.
Conciousness has different definitions...if you are referring to physiological consciousness, then yes, you are right. I'm referring to psychological consciousness.

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Post by Trolldor » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:37 pm

Freud's 'unconscious', and indeed Freud in general, has been shat on by modern psychology.
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