Boxer Vs. Briefs Mafia

[Feck]

well if i's me then I have survived by bussing all my team even when I didn't have to It's a win but can you see the first Day in scum thread ? right guys i'm going to fuck both of you, play like town and hope just hope that I survive ! next time I'm scum I must remember to try that tactic

[oblivion]

The most perfect scum game I've seen involved a good deal of that, along with some masterful setting up of a couple very strong town players.

I was town, and I did not stand a chance in that game.

[oblivion]

^^ I'm not saying I think that is going on. I'm just saying that if higgs and I are both town and one of us is alive tomorrow then I think town's going to lose.

[higgs2]

Higgs what do you think of Denny's plan ?

anD yes you were meant to protect the vig !

What is it? Lynch me, have galls protect denny and denny view galls? First pass, it's not too bad of an idea, if denny views as doc then I would think oblivion is the don. Are we pretty sure that a protect would come before a nk?

denny views as DOC? You mean Galls views as town?

I don't like the idea of lynching higgs over Galls. If Galls' story added up I'd feel differently. While the claimed doc is in the game, we can't discount a don and every view just adds to the list of possible dons, not to cleared town.

If galls is town though we'd prolly lose our seer with no view. Not that it puts us in much of a different position. You were really, really sure I was scum. Is this really big enough to change your mind about that?

read what I said above. The main reason I went after you last night/today was because I suspected galls was the seer and had viewed you. "tells" plus what looked like an incredibly ham-handed attempt to indicate her view before the NKs went through.

Wait. You thought galls was the seer. So you were going after me since you thought she left a clue. But Denny outed as seer. So what did you think he was? If he was lying, he was scum. If he was telling the truth, galls was not the seer. But you kept after me, which might indicate you were still thinking her "clue" was valid. But if it was Denny was scum! What is up with all that.

[higgs2]

What if Gall is doc, Higgs is town (doubt it), and Ob is the Don.
With this plan town will lose

The thing I worry about most is me still being in the game at endgame because I think I'll be lynched and town will lose.

If it will work better for endgame, lynch me today.

yeah, if you're town then they'll lynch me tomorrow and lose.

[oblivion]

Wait. You thought galls was the seer. So you were going after me since you thought she left a clue. But Denny outed as seer. So what did you think he was? If he was lying, he was scum. If he was telling the truth, galls was not the seer. But you kept after me, which might indicate you were still thinking her "clue" was valid. But if it was Denny was scum! What is up with all that.

A half-expectation that gallstones was going to counterclaim seer. Even so, I racheted it back after denny posted his view.

(damn 5 imbedded quotes limit)

[higgs2]

well if i's me then I have survived by bussing all my team even when I didn't have to It's a win but can you see the first Day in scum thread ? right guys i'm going to fuck both of you, play like town and hope just hope that I survive ! next time I'm scum I must remember to try that tactic

That's what I would do. You've seen it done successfully here.

[DennyB]

^^ I'm not saying I think that is going on. I'm just saying that if higgs and I are both town and one of us is alive tomorrow then I think town's going to lose.

I think thats a safe bet.

Well if we take a shot and lynch Galls......
If Galls is the Don then game over.
If Galls is the Doc then there is a Don and a view is usless.
If we lynch Galls then she cannot protect the seer which is the only confirmed town.

[oblivion]

seriously higgs, go back and read the first page of this thread. I laid off you after he posted his view and we started snarking over whether it was time for me to out.

[higgs2]

^^ I'm not saying I think that is going on. I'm just saying that if higgs and I are both town and one of us is alive tomorrow then I think town's going to lose.

Okay what are the odds that gall is doc, you and I are town. Who is scum then. Denny is seer with no counter claim. That leaves feck and low-post totals. We need to consider that option.

[DennyB]

If the scum is Totals or Feck, they must be having a fucking blast!

[oblivion]

^^ I'm not saying I think that is going on. I'm just saying that if higgs and I are both town and one of us is alive tomorrow then I think town's going to lose.

Okay what are the odds that gall is doc, you and I are town. Who is scum then. Denny is seer with no counter claim. That leaves feck and low-post totals. We need to consider that option.

The odds? I have no idea.

I still think the most likely scenario is galls is scum. I hate even thinking about the other possibilities.

If denny survives tonight, I don't think nolynch buys enough advantage tomorrow. If he's dead, then I think town should opt for that.

denny alive tomorrow. 1 confirmed town - 1 or 2 viewed town possible don - 1 or 2 unviewed players. So, the odds are 1/3 of getting it right.

denny dead tomorrow - nothing but 4 possible dons. 1/4 odds of getting it right
--- nolynch then the next day it's 3 possible dons and and 1/3 odds of getting it right

[higgs2]

Yep, looked at page one, you're right about that Oblivion.

Who would be adept and confident enough to leave you and me alive this long. Although we've been p. helpful to scum by going after each other.

Who was Ghat after before she was nk'd, I need to read that over, I missed most of it. But we haven't gone over that have we?

[Feck]

^^ I'm not saying I think that is going on. I'm just saying that if higgs and I are both town and one of us is alive tomorrow then I think town's going to lose.

If we choose to to lynch gallstones and we are wrong and Denny dies we have a 25% chance to get the scum tomorrow if we leave gallstones to protect Denny Scum will NK her and we have a 33% chance to get the scum tomorrow If we leave Gallstones to be viewed by Denny and Neither of them are killed then we have 2 confirmed town players tomorrow so that's 50% If scum don't make a night kill of Gallstones or Denny they add some confusion but lose out on the odds .

so we only really have one choice about Gallstones Are we going to risk the difference between 25% and 33% in the hope that she is scum

Oblivion you have been on Higg's case most of the Game do you want to abandon that because you are so sure that Gallstones is scum ?

Totals Denny and I have to think that Lynching you would give us 33% chance and Denny (a cleared player) as the Mayor

or we could be right and you are the Don


Totals or I get lynched then you are on the 33% odds tomorrow with Denny alive and oblivion as mayor .
and I think Oblivion knows that scum kills come after protection otherwise it would not work would It !
so people that's the summation

[oblivion]

I'm looking back at ghat's posts now. I just re-noticed that Normal was agreeing with me yesterday morning that galls looked scummy. Considering he put a vote on morticia, that's something to add to the mix.