Boxer Vs. Briefs Mafia

[higgs2]

I didn't set this up I just explained a few things that I'm pretty sure I was right about now and fos ing me won't work if I was scum I would never have mentioned the flaw in the lets all declare roles plan ! If you are the town Doc you deserve a lynch for breaking your Hippocratic oath the Doc's JOB is to protect the other specials .

I have to know who they are first, though don't I?
When did you know who they were? Because you are in denial about one.

Charlou fucking outed on day 1. You posted in the thread after nightfall. you KNEW she was the vig. You said you even considered changing your protection.

Your job was to protect her, or protect the person you thought was seer if you had a good idea who that might be. But, the seer would have had to have half outed to be the kill instead of the vig (who was almost certainly killing scum on night 1).

This is where the story does not add up.

I was initially suspicious of the way oblivion jumped all over it after being so sure I'm scum earlier. If she was the don she would forcefully push someone (me) as scum unless there was a better option and the push for them with equal force. But gall's story just does not add up. It's not the decision to protect herself, it's the way she is making up the sequence of events.

Oblivion, you said something about maybe interpreting scum tells as specials tells earlier. Is this what you meant.

[oblivion]

Okay, what is a doctor's role usually like in zigmen's games?

Also, I'm trying to figure out how this all fits in with the doctor's gone swimming hope he comes back thing? If gallstone's telling the truth, then I can kind of see how the comment makes sense. Although it's hard to believe that story.

In the boy band game, Twinkie was able to protect the same player again later in the game.

[higgs2]

Higgs what do you think of Denny's plan ?

anD yes you were meant to protect the vig !

What is it? Lynch me, have galls protect denny and denny view galls? First pass, it's not too bad of an idea, if denny views as doc then I would think oblivion is the don. Are we pretty sure that a protect would come before a nk?

[higgs2]

Okay, what is a doctor's role usually like in zigmen's games?

Also, I'm trying to figure out how this all fits in with the doctor's gone swimming hope he comes back thing? If gallstone's telling the truth, then I can kind of see how the comment makes sense. Although it's hard to believe that story.

In the boy band game, Twinkie was able to protect the same player again later in the game.

How is that relevent here? Also what do you think about the thing with the doc going swimming?

[Feck]

does someone want to work out the options because i think we don't need to lynch her today ,I think denny might be right ?

yes protection has to work before an NK last time I asked the scum night kill comes last .

[oblivion]

I didn't set this up I just explained a few things that I'm pretty sure I was right about now and fos ing me won't work if I was scum I would never have mentioned the flaw in the lets all declare roles plan ! If you are the town Doc you deserve a lynch for breaking your Hippocratic oath the Doc's JOB is to protect the other specials .

I have to know who they are first, though don't I?
When did you know who they were? Because you are in denial about one.

Charlou fucking outed on day 1. You posted in the thread after nightfall. you KNEW she was the vig. You said you even considered changing your protection.

Your job was to protect her, or protect the person you thought was seer if you had a good idea who that might be. But, the seer would have had to have half outed to be the kill instead of the vig (who was almost certainly killing scum on night 1).

This is where the story does not add up.

I was initially suspicious of the way oblivion jumped all over it after being so sure I'm scum earlier. If she was the don she would forcefully push someone (me) as scum unless there was a better option and the push for them with equal force. But gall's story just does not add up. It's not the decision to protect herself, it's the way she is making up the sequence of events.

Oblivion, you said something about maybe interpreting scum tells as specials tells earlier. Is this what you meant.

Yesterday after pushing Galls a while, it suddenly dawned on me that the touchiness and survival orientation might be an indication that she was the seer. I freaked out about that (holy shit - trying to get 2 different specials lynched in one game? AGAIN?), and tried to back down off my high alert suspicions without drawing too much of an arrow in her direction.

Then at the end of the game day yesterday she voted you, and reiterated that she thought you were scum after nightfall. I thought she was leaving hints about her view. And that's why I did the berzerker townie thing early this morning - I was hoping once again to cover her tracks (but figured it was a lost cause and she'd be NKed). If she had counter claimed seer today, I would have been in a quandary.

[higgs2]

Higgs what do you think of Denny's plan ?

anD yes you were meant to protect the vig !

What is it? Lynch me, have galls protect denny and denny view galls? First pass, it's not too bad of an idea, if denny views as doc then I would think oblivion is the don. Are we pretty sure that a protect would come before a nk?

Just know that tomorrow you will need to be *very sure* who scum is because it will be your last shot. Unless you nolynch I suppose.

[oblivion]

Higgs what do you think of Denny's plan ?

anD yes you were meant to protect the vig !

What is it? Lynch me, have galls protect denny and denny view galls? First pass, it's not too bad of an idea, if denny views as doc then I would think oblivion is the don. Are we pretty sure that a protect would come before a nk?

denny views as DOC? You mean Galls views as town?

I don't like the idea of lynching higgs over Galls. If Galls' story added up I'd feel differently. While the claimed doc is in the game, we can't discount a don and every view just adds to the list of possible dons, not to cleared town.

[higgs2]

Higgs what do you think of Denny's plan ?

anD yes you were meant to protect the vig !

What is it? Lynch me, have galls protect denny and denny view galls? First pass, it's not too bad of an idea, if denny views as doc then I would think oblivion is the don. Are we pretty sure that a protect would come before a nk?

denny views as DOC? You mean Galls views as town?

I don't like the idea of lynching higgs over Galls. If Galls' story added up I'd feel differently. While the claimed doc is in the game, we can't discount a don and every view just adds to the list of possible dons, not to cleared town.

No, no i meant to say Denny views *gall* as doc, of course he would only get the alignment of town or scum. I mispoke.

[DennyB]

does someone want to work out the options because i think we don't need to lynch her today ,I think denny might be right ?

yes protection has to work before an NK last time I asked the scum night kill comes last .

The vig kill went through before the NK on Charlou

[higgs2]

Higgs what do you think of Denny's plan ?

anD yes you were meant to protect the vig !

What is it? Lynch me, have galls protect denny and denny view galls? First pass, it's not too bad of an idea, if denny views as doc then I would think oblivion is the don. Are we pretty sure that a protect would come before a nk?

denny views as DOC? You mean Galls views as town?

I don't like the idea of lynching higgs over Galls. If Galls' story added up I'd feel differently. While the claimed doc is in the game, we can't discount a don and every view just adds to the list of possible dons, not to cleared town.

If galls is town though we'd prolly lose our seer with no view. Not that it puts us in much of a different position. You were really, really sure I was scum. Is this really big enough to change your mind about that?

[higgs2]

I'm totally there with the lynch all liars thing. I'm just wondering why galls would fake out as doc when there was really no suspicion on her. On the other hand why would she out as doc at all?

eh. It is p. scummy.

[oblivion]

Is there any way that you guys believe Galls' story about the sequence of events? that she didn't protect Charlou because she was waiting to learn if she could protect herself?

I don't think I'm making too big a deal out of that. But I have a tendency to ignore the safe and high percentage option and go for broke when I think I've found scum.

The options are that Galls is the doc, is the Don or is vanilla scum.

If she's the doc, the suggestion is denny views her and she protects denny. Who do scum kill? And what good is his view?

If she's vanilla scum, denny views her and then what happens? Will he live to out his view?

If she's the don, denny views her, she kills someone else, and denny semi-clears her. What do we learn, besides she must be scum?

If she's lynched, then what happens tonight is totally up in the air, and we don't know what we'd learn until we see the day 4 op.

[oblivion]

I'm totally there with the lynch all liars thing. I'm just wondering why galls would fake out as doc when there was really no suspicion on her. On the other hand why would she out as doc at all?

eh. It is p. scummy.

I think she fastened on Feck's scenario and thought it might work to her advantage. go back and look at how incredibly long it took her to answer my questions. She outed as doc and then went away for about a half hour there. she should have had those answers on the tip of her tongue. And I think I tripped her up asking her what question she was waiting for an answer.

[DennyB]

I'm totally there with the lynch all liars thing. I'm just wondering why galls would fake out as doc when there was really no suspicion on her. On the other hand why would she out as doc at all?

eh. It is p. scummy.

She would out as doc for 2 reasons.
1 - she is doc
2 - to convience us there is a don and keep the fos on you and Ob
Simple eh.