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by oblivion » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:26 pm
DennyB wrote:oblivion wrote:DennyB wrote:That is not an uncommon noob mistake.
What are you referring to?
Self preservation
The self preservation is not the reason why I'm keeping my vote on her. The reason I'm keeping the vote on her is because of her explanation of why she didn't change her vote. It doesn't add up.
1. She puts in a protection for herself
2. She asks Zigmen if she can protect herself
3. She thinks about whether to protect Charlou instead
4. She waits to find out if she can protect herself before changing her protection
5. Time runs out and she can't protect Charlou
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by Gallstones » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:27 pm
oblivion wrote:DennyB wrote:I think Zig's coment refered to why didn't the doc protect Charlou.
A lapse in judgement perhaps.
I think Gall is the doc and higgs is the last scum.
If she is the doc, she can protect me tonight so I can view her.
Do I see it right that we got 2 shots at this?
See that's the thing, she's all worked up about being killed instead of the considerations and possibilities.
If there is a doctor in this game, Feck is right that the last scum is probably a don and another view won't settle anything.
Why hasn't this "True" Doctor come out then--if it isn't me?
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by oblivion » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:28 pm
Gallstones wrote:Feck wrote:I didn't set this up I just explained a few things that I'm pretty sure I was right about now and fos ing me won't work if I was scum I would never have mentioned the flaw in the lets all declare roles plan ! If you are the town Doc you deserve a lynch for breaking your Hippocratic oath the Doc's JOB is to protect the other specials .
I have to know who they are first, though don't I?
When did you know who they were? Because you are in denial about one.
Charlou fucking outed on day 1. You posted in the thread after nightfall. you KNEW she was the vig. You said you even considered changing your protection.
Your job was to protect her, or protect the person you thought was seer if you had a good idea who that might be. But, the seer would have had to have half outed to be the kill instead of the vig (who was almost certainly killing scum on night 1).
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by oblivion » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:29 pm
Gallstones wrote:oblivion wrote:DennyB wrote:I think Zig's coment refered to why didn't the doc protect Charlou.
A lapse in judgement perhaps.
I think Gall is the doc and higgs is the last scum.
If she is the doc, she can protect me tonight so I can view her.
Do I see it right that we got 2 shots at this?
See that's the thing, she's all worked up about being killed instead of the considerations and possibilities.
If there is a doctor in this game, Feck is right that the last scum is probably a don and another view won't settle anything.
Why hasn't this "True" Doctor come out then--if it isn't me?
The obvious explanation is that there isn't one.
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by DennyB » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:30 pm
Gallstones wrote:oblivion wrote:DennyB wrote:I think Zig's coment refered to why didn't the doc protect Charlou.
A lapse in judgement perhaps.
I think Gall is the doc and higgs is the last scum.
If she is the doc, she can protect me tonight so I can view her.
Do I see it right that we got 2 shots at this?
See that's the thing, she's all worked up about being killed instead of the considerations and possibilities.
If there is a doctor in this game, Feck is right that the last scum is probably a don and another view won't settle anything.
Why hasn't this "True" Doctor come out then--if it isn't me?
Because if there is no doctor, more than likely there is no don
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by DennyB » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:32 pm
Damn you type fast Ob
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by oblivion » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:33 pm
DennyB wrote:Gallstones wrote:oblivion wrote:DennyB wrote:I think Zig's coment refered to why didn't the doc protect Charlou.
A lapse in judgement perhaps.
I think Gall is the doc and higgs is the last scum.
If she is the doc, she can protect me tonight so I can view her.
Do I see it right that we got 2 shots at this?
See that's the thing, she's all worked up about being killed instead of the considerations and possibilities.
If there is a doctor in this game, Feck is right that the last scum is probably a don and another view won't settle anything.
Why hasn't this "True" Doctor come out then--if it isn't me?
Because if there is no doctor, more than likely there is no don
god damn it I think I just hit edit instead of quote on Denny's post. I'm pretty sure I wrote that bit about "no doctor, no don".
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by oblivion » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:34 pm
WHEW! I'm glad that was cross post and me not being a clutz with the buttons.
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by DennyB » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:35 pm
oblivion wrote:WHEW! I'm glad that was cross post and me not being a clutz with the buttons.
Ha !
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by oblivion » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:37 pm
oblivion wrote:Gallstones wrote:Feck wrote:I didn't set this up I just explained a few things that I'm pretty sure I was right about now and fos ing me won't work if I was scum I would never have mentioned the flaw in the lets all declare roles plan ! If you are the town Doc you deserve a lynch for breaking your Hippocratic oath the Doc's JOB is to protect the other specials .
I have to know who they are first, though don't I?
When did you know who they were? Because you are in denial about one.
Charlou fucking outed on day 1. You posted in the thread after nightfall. you KNEW she was the vig. You said you even considered changing your protection.
Your job was to protect her, or protect the person you thought was seer if you had a good idea who that might be. But, the seer would have had to have half outed to be the kill instead of the vig (who was almost certainly killing scum on night 1).
^^ all of this was written as if you had done one of the most ridiculous night 1 doc performances I've witnessed. Not the most ridiculous - I've seen some doozies. But it does highlight the craziness of your story about waiting to change your protection to her until you knew if you could protect yourself.
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by higgs2 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:38 pm
Okay, what is a doctor's role usually like in zigmen's games?
Also, I'm trying to figure out how this all fits in with the doctor's gone swimming hope he comes back thing? If gallstone's telling the truth, then I can kind of see how the comment makes sense. Although it's hard to believe that story.
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by Gallstones » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:47 pm
Well people, my rifle has arrived at the dealer and I'm going to go pick it up. Then get ready for dinner at my mother's then come back later to find you all made the very mistake I told you you were making.
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by Gallstones » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:48 pm
BTW, Charlou did say not to protect her. So, was I to do it anyway or not?
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by Feck » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:56 pm
Higgs what do you think of Denny's plan ?
anD yes you were meant to protect the vig !
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by oblivion » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:57 pm
Gallstones wrote:BTW, Charlou did say not to protect her. So, was I to do it anyway or not?
A doc should have protected her unless they had a really good idea who the seer is.
Even when specials out, there's a certain amount of shell game town can play by increasing the number of players who *might* be protected. But, this time, there was no good sign of a seer, and the vig was way more valuable than the mayor was. It was worth it to scum to take the risk Charlou might be protected and make her the NK anyway. Especially since they knew she was going to try to kill Morticia.
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