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Post by Ayaan » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:59 am

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Post by Bella Fortuna » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:59 am

I was taken aback by that as well!
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Post by jaydot » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:51 am

nice to see them begin to scrap amongst themselves.
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Post by charlou » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:39 am

That's interesting .. good stuff ... thanks for posting it, Ayaan.
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The link keeps redirecting to LoveFilm!
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Post by Millefleur » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:10 pm

Deep Sea Isopod wrote:The link keeps redirecting to LoveFilm!
Same, I can only read the first couple of lines.
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The link works fine for me.
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Post by Twoflower » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:14 pm

Millefleur wrote:
Deep Sea Isopod wrote:The link keeps redirecting to LoveFilm!
Same, I can only read the first couple of lines.
Thats odd, I don't have any problem with it

Here it is
Nevada (US), Sept 17 (ANI): Hindus have criticized His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI for rough handling of atheists in his speech at Holyroodhouse in Edinburgh (United Kingdom) on September 16, where he appeared to associate atheism with the Nazis.



Eminent Hindu statesman Rajan Zed, in a statement in Nevada (USA) today, said that as Catholics and Hindus and others had freedom of their belief systems and were respected for their respective choices, and so should be the atheists. A religious leader of Pope's stature should have been more inclusive.


Zed, who is President of Universal Society of Hinduism, further said that although Pope frequently talked about right to religious freedom, cooperation of the human family, truly universal human community, etc., but in this speech, he apparently condemned the beliefs of a considerable chunk of world population called atheists. Who were we as human beings to judge publicly that other humans' beliefs different than us were wrong?

Rajan Zed stressed that Pope should get rid of his obsession against atheism and show some maturity and inclusiveness. Frankly, it was the fault of us religious leaders (which included Pope also) and organizations that atheism was growing in the world. We (including Pope) needed to do a better job to make religion more vibrant, attractive and engaging to keep people in God's fold.

In his Edinburgh speech, Pope talked about Nazi tyranny that wished to eradicate God from society. He further reportedly said: As we reflect on the sobering lessons of the atheist extremism of the twentieth century, let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and virtue from public life leads ultimately to a truncated vision of man and of society and thus to a reductive vision of the person and his destiny.

In his encyclical "Caritas in Veritate" (Charity in Truth) issued in Rome last year, Pope was also highly critical of atheists and humanists: "...ideological rejection of God and an atheism of indifference, oblivious to the Creator and at risk of becoming equally oblivious to human values, constitute some of the chief obstacles to development today. A humanism which excludes God is an inhuman humanism." This encyclical letter is considered the highest form of papal teaching.

Atheism is disbelief in the existence of God and atheists argue that there is little or no real evidence for the existence of God. Pope Benedict heads the Roman Catholic Church, which is the largest of the Christian denominations. Hinduism, oldest and third largest religion of the world, has about one billion adherents and moksh (liberation) is its ultimate goal. (ANI)
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Post by Ronja » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:41 pm

Charlou wrote:That's interesting .. good stuff ... thanks for posting it, Ayaan.
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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:59 pm

Millefleur wrote:
Deep Sea Isopod wrote:The link keeps redirecting to LoveFilm!
Same, I can only read the first couple of lines.

I found if you hit the "stop loading this page" button, just as the page shows, it wont redirect.
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Post by Hermit » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:09 am

For those who had problems loading the article, here it is in full.
Hindus denounce Pope for being offensive to atheists

Nevada (US), Sept 17 (ANI): Hindus have criticized His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI for rough handling of atheists in his speech at Holyroodhouse in Edinburgh (United Kingdom) on September 16, where he appeared to associate atheism with the Nazis.

Eminent Hindu statesman Rajan Zed, in a statement in Nevada (USA) today, said that as Catholics and Hindus and others had freedom of their belief systems and were respected for their respective choices, and so should be the atheists. A religious leader of Pope's stature should have been more inclusive.


Zed, who is President of Universal Society of Hinduism, further said that although Pope frequently talked about right to religious freedom, cooperation of the human family, truly universal human community, etc., but in this speech, he apparently condemned the beliefs of a considerable chunk of world population called atheists. Who were we as human beings to judge publicly that other humans' beliefs different than us were wrong?

Rajan Zed stressed that Pope should get rid of his obsession against atheism and show some maturity and inclusiveness. Frankly, it was the fault of us religious leaders (which included Pope also) and organizations that atheism was growing in the world. We (including Pope) needed to do a better job to make religion more vibrant, attractive and engaging to keep people in God's fold.

In his Edinburgh speech, Pope talked about Nazi tyranny that wished to eradicate God from society. He further reportedly said: As we reflect on the sobering lessons of the atheist extremism of the twentieth century, let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and virtue from public life leads ultimately to a truncated vision of man and of society and thus to a reductive vision of the person and his destiny.

In his encyclical "Caritas in Veritate" (Charity in Truth) issued in Rome last year, Pope was also highly critical of atheists and humanists: "...ideological rejection of God and an atheism of indifference, oblivious to the Creator and at risk of becoming equally oblivious to human values, constitute some of the chief obstacles to development today. A humanism which excludes God is an inhuman humanism." This encyclical letter is considered the highest form of papal teaching.

Atheism is disbelief in the existence of God and atheists argue that there is little or no real evidence for the existence of God. Pope Benedict heads the Roman Catholic Church, which is the largest of the Christian denominations. Hinduism, oldest and third largest religion of the world, has about one billion adherents and moksh (liberation) is its ultimate goal. (ANI)
It reads to me like a press release authored by Rajan Zed himself. He has written hundreds - perhaps thousands - of pieces of such self promotion that included the phrase 'acclaimed / eminent Hindu statesman'. He also created an entry about himself in the Wikipedia, which was deleted in February 2007 (Per CSD A7 - Unremarkable people, groups, companies and web content that does not assert the importance or significance of its subject) When he reinserted it it was deleted again early this year. Shades of Thor Halland, methinks.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:15 pm

Ronja wrote:
Charlou wrote:That's interesting .. good stuff ... thanks for posting it, Ayaan.
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Post by Kristie » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:28 pm

I posted the link on my FB page. I'm sure my Dad will love it :hehe:
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Post by mistermack » Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:11 pm

He didn't mean to be offensive. I forgive him.
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