Irish science minister and the anti-evolution book launch

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Irish science minister and the anti-evolution book launch

Post by klr » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:25 pm

This is weird ...

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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/bre ... ing61.html
Lenihan to launch anti-evolution book

Minister for Science Conor Lenihan is to officially launch a book exposing the “fiction of evolution”.

Mr Lenihan will attend the launch of The Origin of Specious Nonsense by Dublin writer John J May in Buswell’s Hotel on Wednesday evening.

According to the book’s website Mr May says evolution “cripples sanity, promotes myths and obscures reality”.

He also said anyone who teaches evolution is “either ignorant or deliberately suppressing the known scientific facts.

“It [evolution] is a toxic poisonous mind virus which destroys the hearts immune system against hope and common sense,” he added.

Mr Lenihan said he is not launching the book as Minister for Science but rather as a TD because Mr May is a constituent of his.

The “Gorillas and Girls” launch party will begin with a talk entitled "How evolution made monkeys out of man” at 7:30pm before the Minister launches the book at 8pm.

Michael Nugent of Atheist Ireland said the Minister’s appearance at the launch is an abuse of his position and an attack by the Government on both scientists and science education.
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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/fro ... 31472.html
Minister withdraws from launch of anti-evolution book

MINISTER FOR Science Conor Lenihan will not now launch a book in Dublin which describes evolution as a fantasy and a hoax, after the author asked him to withdraw in the wake of controversy on the web.

The Minister was to launch The Origin of Specious Nonsense by John May at Buswells hotel tomorrow, with actors playing the parts of Charles Darwin and King Kong.

But Mr May said last night he had asked Mr Lenihan not to launch the book “because I am so embarrassed that the Minister for Science has been so insulted” and “eviscerated” on a political website. “He doesn’t even believe in my central argument,” the author said.

Mr May is due to give a talk at the launch on How Evolution Made Monkeys Out of Man .

Mr May is also offering €10,000 to anyone who can prove evolution at a biochemical level. He describes himself on the website http://www.theoriginofspeciousnonsense.com as “like Abraham Lincoln, self-educated, and might be viewed as a polymath, left school young and commenced my real education”.

Speaking to The Irish Times last night, he said Mr Lenihan had agreed to launch the book some weeks ago, but had since requested that his description as Minister for Science be deleted from publicity material about the launch.

Mr May said this had been done “immediately”. He said Mr Lenihan had agreed to launch the book as “I am a friend and a constituent”.

But he was so “embarrassed” by the insults against the Minister that he had asked him to withdraw.

Speaking from Galway earlier last night, Mr Lenihan said while he “remained to be convinced” by Mr May’s arguments, he would be attending the launch in a personal capacity and as he believed “diversity of opinion is a good thing”. However following Mr May’s request he has withdrawn from the launch.

In publicity material for the launch of his book on the theory of evolution, Mr May accused “Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel C Dennett, et al” of having “sacrificed reason on the altar of Chance, Mutations, Randomness . . .” Mr May called on “the world’s atheists, scientists, evolutionists plus tens of millions of their duped followers” to stop pretending they had “any facts whatsoever to support the greatest deceit in the history of science”.

Evolution was “a fantasy of farraginous, farcical, fatuous, feculent, facile facetiousness and my book shall lead the charge against this UNSCIENTIFIC HOAX [his emphasis] worldwide”.

Last night he described himself as “spiritual” but, like his six children, “free from the infection of organised religion”.
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http://www.atheist.ie/2010/09/science-m ... on-a-hoax/
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:27 pm

Next time somebody talks about religulous Merkins. . .
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Post by RuleBritannia » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:28 pm

He describes himself on the website http://www.theoriginofspeciousnonsense.com as “like Abraham Lincoln, self-educated, and might be viewed as a polymath, left school young and commenced my real education”.
Pretty much sums up the problem, completely delutional.
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Post by Animavore » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:30 pm

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:33 pm

Everyone involved needs to be comprehensively thrashed.

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Clinton Huxley wrote:Everyone involved needs to be comprehensively thrashed.
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:36 pm

I'd prefer to be appointed to the house of Lords.

Lord Thrasher has a nice ring to it

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Post by Bella Fortuna » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:47 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:I'd prefer to be appointed to the house of Lords.

Lord Thrasher has a nice ring to it
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Post by klr » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:55 pm

I think we have dear old PZ to blame for stoking a roasting hot fire under our esteemed Minister for Science:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010 ... ster_o.php
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Post by klr » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:00 pm

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Post by PsychoSerenity » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:40 am

Mr May is also offering €10,000 to anyone who can prove evolution at a biochemical level.
E.coli long-term evolution experiment

Do I get a share of the money as commission?
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Post by Hermit » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:58 am

Gawdzilla wrote:Next time somebody talks about religulous Merkins. . .
Yeah, the situation is almost as bad in Australia. John Howard, Prime Minister 1996-2007 (he got re-elected three times!), spent much of his time white-anting the separation of Church and State. Kevin Rudd, the succeeding PM, was very visibly a practicing Christian, albeit of a somewhat more socially liberal variety. Julia Gillard, the current Prime minister is our first openly atheist PM ever, but she is now presiding over a hung parliament. If the current opposition leader gets to form the next (minority) government, we'll be back to having a christian of the almost medieval variety at the helm of the nation.

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Post by Toontown » Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:00 am

May wrote: “It [evolution] is a toxic poisonous mind virus which destroys the hearts immune system against hope and common sense.”
:what:

The heart has an immune system against hope and common sense?

Having read some human history, I could almost believe that.

And evolution destroys the heart's anti-hope/common sense immune system?

Really? Then gimme a big dose of that evolution. As a descendant of a lemur, I can at least look back on my ancestry with some pride in their tree-climbing and distance-judging ability. But if that dumb-ass Adam and Eve are my ancestors, I have nothing to be proud of, ancestorally speaking. Those shitheads had one thumb up their asses, one thumb in their mouths, and didn't do anything except switch thumbs periodically. Until they ate the apple, which wasn't exactly a stroke of genius either. Obviously a flawed design. Informed by the Master of the Universe not to eat the apple on pain of death, right away they ignored the Master of the Universe and ate the apple. Because a snake told them to. Damn right. That's some ancestors to be proud of.
Mr May is also offering €10,000 to anyone who can prove evolution at a biochemical level.


At a biochemical level? How convenient. Or so he thinks. Evolution is written in stone at the macro-observational level, but he wants biochemical proof, apparently certain that no one has any. Unless he reneges, he's going to lose that €10,000. He's probably going to renege by claiming that genetic adaptation is not really evolution. He will be wrong, but will stubbornly insist he's right. Which is what it always comes down to.
In publicity material for the launch of his book on the theory of evolution, Mr May accused “Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel C Dennett, et al” of having “sacrificed reason on the altar of Chance, Mutations, Randomness . . .” Mr May called on “the world’s atheists, scientists, evolutionists plus tens of millions of their duped followers” to stop pretending they had “any facts whatsoever to support the greatest deceit in the history of science”.


Facts? Who needs facts when you have tons of physical evidence?

Gosh. Do you think May could be confusing evolution with biogenesis? There is no absolutely irrefutable physical evidence for biogenesis. But of course there wouldn't be.
Evolution was “a fantasy of farraginous, farcical, fatuous, feculent, facile facetiousness and my book shall lead the charge against this UNSCIENTIFIC HOAX [his emphasis] worldwide”.”
Yeah. Curse all those fossils that were obviously planted by SATAN to fool all the smarty-pantsies.
Last night he described himself as “spiritual” but, like his six children, “free from the infection of organised religion”.
Oh no. That means he's invented his own private god. Which can only mean...oh NO! He means to start his own organized religion! NO! Not another one! Somebody stop him!

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:19 pm

Toontown wrote:
May wrote: “It [evolution] is a toxic poisonous mind virus which destroys the hearts immune system against hope and common sense.”
:what:

The heart has an immune system against hope and common sense?
Yeah, it's called religion.
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