9/11: a conspiracy?

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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Rum » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:01 am

People can't keep secrets. If two people know something and swear each other to silence they will both tell someone else and swear them to silence...etcetera...

Incidentally that has to happen only 10 times for 1024 people to be in on the 'secret'.

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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Thinking Aloud » Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:23 am

Lozzer wrote:*The Pentagon was hit by an airliner, and the event was documented by both the Pentagon's CCTV and that of a small business in the area. Both videos of the footage clearly show an explosion, but neither show a plane hitting the building. I've always been convinced that it was down to how slowly the CCTV recorded the frames the impact, but the Pentagon's footage has the fastest pace of recording.
The footage released from the Pentagon security hut cameras clearly isn't very fast-paced (compared say your average video camera), since you can count the frames-per-second just watching it (it's 2 or 3 fps as opposed to 30 or more), but you can see what appears to be the tail fin of the plane in one of the frames, according to this reconstruction:


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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:01 am

Movie cameras shoot 16-24 frames per second. They use up a lot of film in a few minutes. Security cameras shoot at slower rates because they have to store hours or days of images. I can imagine what some Senator would say if he heard a movie-quality camera was being used to film a PARKING LOT!
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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:29 am

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Santa_Claus wrote:Kinda like Pearl Harbour - US govt knew it was coming and that the attack would serve a purpose.
Oh, my flippin' god...christ on a popsicle stick....

The US gov't did not fucking know that the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941 was coming.
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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:57 am

Thinking Aloud wrote:
Lozzer wrote:*The Pentagon was hit by an airliner, and the event was documented by both the Pentagon's CCTV and that of a small business in the area. Both videos of the footage clearly show an explosion, but neither show a plane hitting the building. I've always been convinced that it was down to how slowly the CCTV recorded the frames the impact, but the Pentagon's footage has the fastest pace of recording.
The footage released from the Pentagon security hut cameras clearly isn't very fast-paced (compared say your average video camera), since you can count the frames-per-second just watching it (it's 2 or 3 fps as opposed to 30 or more), but you can see what appears to be the tail fin of the plane in one of the frames, according to this reconstruction:

And dozens of normal everyday civilians saw the plane fly in and hit the Pentagon...and pieces of the plane were recovered at the site.

9/11 Conspiracy nutters are fucking stupid. I bet if their IQ's were tested, they'd be below average. The folks holding seminars are the only smart ones, smart enough to fleece the gaggle of nattering morons that follow around and clap and hoot when a recording of Silverstein saying "pull it" is played, because that proves that Building 7 was demolished in a controlled demolition. LOL

And, the flag wouldn't be waiving if it was on the Moon! And, there are no stars in the background of the Apollo 11 photos! And, nobody would survive crossing the Van Allen radiation belts!

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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:59 am

Sorry, C.E.S., but the rules say you can only use eyewitness testimony if it agrees with the conspiracy theory.

And you can use totally made-up testimony if the eyewitness testimony isn't sufficient.
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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Pappa » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:07 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:And dozens of normal everyday civilians saw the plane fly in and hit the Pentagon...and pieces of the plane were recovered at the site.
Yeah but the people were all CIA stooges and the pieces of plane were all put there during the hours when there was a media blackout of the area.

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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:47 pm

Pappa wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:And dozens of normal everyday civilians saw the plane fly in and hit the Pentagon...and pieces of the plane were recovered at the site.
Yeah but the people were all CIA stooges and the pieces of plane were all put there during the hours when there was a media blackout of the area.

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Gotcha...I see...because..."they" could remotely fly planes into the WTC towers, but certainly not into the Pentagon. It's all so clear to me now! The best way to do it would be to hit the Pentagon with a cruise missile, and then fake it so it looks like it was an airplane. All we need is to make sure that everyone outside the Pentagon were on the payroll, and that the surveillance cameras would be controlled, and that they could enforce a complete media blackout..... it's so simple ...why didn't I think of it sooner... :doh:

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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:50 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:And dozens of normal everyday civilians saw the plane fly in and hit the Pentagon...and pieces of the plane were recovered at the site.
Yeah but the people were all CIA stooges and the pieces of plane were all put there during the hours when there was a media blackout of the area.

:tea:
Gotcha...I see...because..."they" could remotely fly planes into the WTC towers, but certainly not into the Pentagon. It's all so clear to me now! The best way to do it would be to hit the Pentagon with a cruise missile, and then fake it so it looks like it was an airplane. All we need is to make sure that everyone outside the Pentagon were on the payroll, and that the surveillance cameras would be controlled, and that they could enforce a complete media blackout..... it's so simple ...why didn't I think of it sooner... :doh:
Including people on the highways who saw the plane, I mean CRUISE MISSILE, fly over their heads at about ten feet.
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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:15 pm

And, the phone call from the plane from the US Solicitor General's wife, Barabara Olsen, to her husband, Ted Olsen. That was faked. He wanted to get her out of the way, so they faked the phone call, and then he had her offed. That way, he, a closet gay, could be rid of his wife and set out on his mission to champion the gay marriage movement in court.

If you'll just look at all the pieces, the puzzle comes together.....

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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Pappa » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:20 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:And dozens of normal everyday civilians saw the plane fly in and hit the Pentagon...and pieces of the plane were recovered at the site.
Yeah but the people were all CIA stooges and the pieces of plane were all put there during the hours when there was a media blackout of the area.

:tea:
Gotcha...I see...because..."they" could remotely fly planes into the WTC towers, but certainly not into the Pentagon. It's all so clear to me now! The best way to do it would be to hit the Pentagon with a cruise missile, and then fake it so it looks like it was an airplane. All we need is to make sure that everyone outside the Pentagon were on the payroll, and that the surveillance cameras would be controlled, and that they could enforce a complete media blackout..... it's so simple ...why didn't I think of it sooner... :doh:
I'm glad you're finally beginning to understand. :console:
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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:28 pm

Pappa wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:And dozens of normal everyday civilians saw the plane fly in and hit the Pentagon...and pieces of the plane were recovered at the site.
Yeah but the people were all CIA stooges and the pieces of plane were all put there during the hours when there was a media blackout of the area.

:tea:
Gotcha...I see...because..."they" could remotely fly planes into the WTC towers, but certainly not into the Pentagon. It's all so clear to me now! The best way to do it would be to hit the Pentagon with a cruise missile, and then fake it so it looks like it was an airplane. All we need is to make sure that everyone outside the Pentagon were on the payroll, and that the surveillance cameras would be controlled, and that they could enforce a complete media blackout..... it's so simple ...why didn't I think of it sooner... :doh:
I'm glad you're finally beginning to understand. :console:
Who knew we had a security apparatus full of trustworthy Macgyvers who could pull this off without a hitch!?

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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:32 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Who knew we had a security apparatus full of trustworthy Macgyvers who could pull this off without a hitch!?
Follow Ian back far enough and the truth becomes clear.
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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Ian » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:41 pm

It all makes perfect sense, really. Making a civilian flight disappear, getting the military to launch a cruise missile into their headquarters and then keep quiet about it, having the missile fly over a densely populated area in broad daylight without anyone seeing it, planting phony evidence and fake eyewitness testimony about a plane, enacting a supposed "media blackout" on what became the most widely-covered event in modern media history... all of that is easy compared to the complexity and risk involved in just flying a plane into a building.

Truth be told, I wasn't even in England on 9/11. That's just a cover story. I was up on the Washington Monument holding one of these things, flying the cruise missile plane around:
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Re: 9/11: a conspiracy?

Post by Feck » Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:12 pm

Ian wrote:It all makes perfect sense, really. Making a civilian flight disappear, getting the military to launch a cruise missile into their headquarters and then keep quiet about it, having the missile fly over a densely populated area in broad daylight without anyone seeing it, planting phony evidence and fake eyewitness testimony about a plane, enacting a supposed "media blackout" on what became the most widely-covered event in modern media history... all of that is easy compared to the complexity and risk involved in just flying a plane into a building.

Truth be told, I wasn't even in England on 9/11. That's just a cover story. I was up on the Washington Monument holding one of these things, flying the cruise missile plane around:
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